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BP OIL SPILL SOUNDBITES 2 - BP BS Spin the truth paint a pretty picture
BP is so full of crap it is criminal. Listen to the people.
Harding's Beach W. Chatham MA, Cape Cod August 20th 2010
Do you notice the Thousands of Horseshoe Crabs dead and whole on the Beach? What is missing from this picture?
Birds that's what!
I'm sure all of us have had to fend off the Gulls while having lunch on the beach and tossed them a bite or two but what was so odd to me was so few Seagulls around the area during a time when they could have feasted themselves to death.
I don't think they have to worry about eating themselves to death BP took good care of that. No more lies. The Corexit made it's way up the coast. It can float on the surface of the water and flow up the coast in the ocean currents. To much evidence of that tells me otherwise.
August 20th 2010 I came across this but 5 days later a dead 100 pound Loggerhead sea turtle washed up on this same beach. I was told by the man who had performed the necropsy on the dead turtle. He mentioned to me what i had seen was probably from the birds. I told him he got there to late. That seagull in the photo above was hesitant to touch the mess on the beach.
I have been told different and I disagree with the explanations given out by a few people in important positions and also not heard form others we hire to represent us. Yes there is a warming of the sea. A thermal Chemical warming. My husband said to me "You wont be satisfied until you hear what you want to hear?" He hasn't really had time in his busy life to listen and watch what I have and he is a bit different than me and i love him but i said to him. If you thought you had cancer and had a test done that came back negative and you still felt sick would you stop asking questions?
I would ask for a second opinion and even go further. I no longer depend on anyone else for my life but me. I question question question. The reason for that is from personal experience and he knows that. So for people who do not have the time to read long articles or watch long videos because they are going about their daily lives like normal human beings unaware of the severity of this environmental crime I am doing all I can to contribute to helping condense it and make what i have been learning simpler to understand. Do not sit idle and do not think others have your back. Do not believe people in power are looking out for your best interest. Pay attention people now more than ever this is a world crisis not a little incident.
Harding's Beach W. Chatham MA, Cape Cod August 20th 2010
Do you notice the Thousands of Horseshoe Crabs dead and whole on the Beach? What is missing from this picture?
Birds that's what!
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What do you think he is thinking about? Maybe should I stay or should I go?
There were birds at the beach that day but not one's I feel were common for my area at this beach I have been going there for over 48 years on Cape Cod. I'm very familiar with this beach.I'm sure all of us have had to fend off the Gulls while having lunch on the beach and tossed them a bite or two but what was so odd to me was so few Seagulls around the area during a time when they could have feasted themselves to death.
I don't think they have to worry about eating themselves to death BP took good care of that. No more lies. The Corexit made it's way up the coast. It can float on the surface of the water and flow up the coast in the ocean currents. To much evidence of that tells me otherwise.
August 20th 2010 I came across this but 5 days later a dead 100 pound Loggerhead sea turtle washed up on this same beach. I was told by the man who had performed the necropsy on the dead turtle. He mentioned to me what i had seen was probably from the birds. I told him he got there to late. That seagull in the photo above was hesitant to touch the mess on the beach.
I have been told different and I disagree with the explanations given out by a few people in important positions and also not heard form others we hire to represent us. Yes there is a warming of the sea. A thermal Chemical warming. My husband said to me "You wont be satisfied until you hear what you want to hear?" He hasn't really had time in his busy life to listen and watch what I have and he is a bit different than me and i love him but i said to him. If you thought you had cancer and had a test done that came back negative and you still felt sick would you stop asking questions?
I would ask for a second opinion and even go further. I no longer depend on anyone else for my life but me. I question question question. The reason for that is from personal experience and he knows that. So for people who do not have the time to read long articles or watch long videos because they are going about their daily lives like normal human beings unaware of the severity of this environmental crime I am doing all I can to contribute to helping condense it and make what i have been learning simpler to understand. Do not sit idle and do not think others have your back. Do not believe people in power are looking out for your best interest. Pay attention people now more than ever this is a world crisis not a little incident.
BP OIL SPILL SOUNDBITES 1 - BP BS Propaganda - Listen to the people
It isn't the well it's what lays beyond it and beneath
Why is this important? Listen and find out BP BS. Everything is all under control. Everything is going honky dory and A - O- K. We know what were doing BP says but you really don't is more like it. Very scary folks to see a company in so much control spin the media and the highest of authorities to even our own President.
We are not in this alone. So many will feel the impact of the disaster not just today but for years to come. We do not have people in high places that are wizards or magicians either who know what they are doing. So do not count on them knowing the answers on how to reverse this because they can't. Don't count on them to make it all better because we don't have bandaid's big enough for this wound.
Our Planet is so severely damaged right now this may have set the stage for an even worse event to come. Pay attention folks. I pray and hope there is a God and that there are Aliens who have been watching out for us because if this isn't the time to intervene then what are they waiting for?
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BP OIL SPILL SOUNDBITES 1 - BP BS Propaganda - Listen to the people
It isn't the well it's what lays beyond it and beneath
Why is this important? Listen and find out BP BS. Everything is all under control. Everything is going honky dory and A - O- K. We know what were doing BP says but you really don't is more like it. Very scary folks to see a company in so much control spin the media and the highest of authorities to even our own President.
We are not in this alone. So many will feel the impact of the disaster not just today but for years to come. We do not have people in high places that are wizards or magicians either who know what they are doing. So do not count on them knowing the answers on how to reverse this because they can't. Don't count on them to make it all better because we don't have bandaid's big enough for this wound.
Our Planet is so severely damaged right now this may have set the stage for an even worse event to come. Pay attention folks. I pray and hope there is a God and that there are Aliens who have been watching out for us because if this isn't the time to intervene then what are they waiting for?
BP Oil Spill is a Catastrophic Environmental Disaster that will impact the World for years to come not just the US
The Gulf Sea is Dead
The BP Oil Spill is not a leak or a spill. It is a MAJOR Catastrophic Environmental Disaster. BP's DeepWater Horizon Oil Rig and it's army of executives (greedy thugs) was an accident waiting to happen and they knew about it from what we are all finding out or shall I say some are finding out. It seems to me it was a predictable risk and they cut cost where ever they could.
The majority of people out of the area there do not realize how Catastrophic this event was and is but its probably one of the worst recorded man made disasters of our time besides the Dinosaurs dying off. I mean if anyone can mess up the world man can. We have just seen proof of that haven't we.
Please listen to the recordings below. I have tried to capture as much of what people have been saying on videos and in the news about this event and what they have experienced. you will hear the voices of victims and the people who either are BP or work for BP and our own officials who have been hood winked themselves.
That alone should be justification to take them all in but for some reason they haven't because we are told they are the only experts left that may know how to manage the situation. Wrong it is far to gone to think it can be fixed. We have to now consider the fallout of the illnesses and the deaths that will come tomorrow not today.
Anyone who speaks out may either find themselves out of a job or dead like Matthew Roy Simmons who was found dead in his hot tub in New Haven Maine of a Heart Attack. His old secretary seems to be a bit more critical of that finding knowing very well there are ways to murder a person with undetectable liquid poisons that can be frozen into the size of a tiny bullet and shot at a target from a long distance and they wouldn't even know they were shot. Not even a trace of a wound.
What he said in an interview about this all being a bad science fiction novel people wouldn't even believe. Believe it! big money runs the world and our lives are at risk and has been for a very long time. Even our own government is clueless and that frightens me even more. We have to look out for each other. This is only going to get worse.
Yes the Corexit is killing our marine life but we face an even graver future from what Mr. Simmons has stated in this interview before his death. Others have also died that have spoken out. But i think people are waking up to the facts and the reality that the world is in jeopardy and we all have to ban together. They wanted a New World Order well I have a better Idea. So do we and their not included.
Listen people to what is said and then go seek out more information. You wont get this in the main stream media from those pretty girls and boys they already have been bought and paid for. Hear it directly from those who have witnessed the crime or have been involved in smaller scale environmental disasters. Well the ones that are alive still to tell us what to expect.
It has hit my shores and you can say the Gulf is a dead sea and the Atlantic is getting there. What next. I'll add to this blog when I can to keep you updated. Listen people listen. If you don't have the time to watch a mess of video's at least have the sense to listen to the audio from them. This is not your imaginary incident or virtual playground at risk this is our reality. Our World!
The majority of people out of the area there do not realize how Catastrophic this event was and is but its probably one of the worst recorded man made disasters of our time besides the Dinosaurs dying off. I mean if anyone can mess up the world man can. We have just seen proof of that haven't we.
Please listen to the recordings below. I have tried to capture as much of what people have been saying on videos and in the news about this event and what they have experienced. you will hear the voices of victims and the people who either are BP or work for BP and our own officials who have been hood winked themselves.
That alone should be justification to take them all in but for some reason they haven't because we are told they are the only experts left that may know how to manage the situation. Wrong it is far to gone to think it can be fixed. We have to now consider the fallout of the illnesses and the deaths that will come tomorrow not today.
Anyone who speaks out may either find themselves out of a job or dead like Matthew Roy Simmons who was found dead in his hot tub in New Haven Maine of a Heart Attack. His old secretary seems to be a bit more critical of that finding knowing very well there are ways to murder a person with undetectable liquid poisons that can be frozen into the size of a tiny bullet and shot at a target from a long distance and they wouldn't even know they were shot. Not even a trace of a wound.
What he said in an interview about this all being a bad science fiction novel people wouldn't even believe. Believe it! big money runs the world and our lives are at risk and has been for a very long time. Even our own government is clueless and that frightens me even more. We have to look out for each other. This is only going to get worse.
Yes the Corexit is killing our marine life but we face an even graver future from what Mr. Simmons has stated in this interview before his death. Others have also died that have spoken out. But i think people are waking up to the facts and the reality that the world is in jeopardy and we all have to ban together. They wanted a New World Order well I have a better Idea. So do we and their not included.
Listen people to what is said and then go seek out more information. You wont get this in the main stream media from those pretty girls and boys they already have been bought and paid for. Hear it directly from those who have witnessed the crime or have been involved in smaller scale environmental disasters. Well the ones that are alive still to tell us what to expect.
It has hit my shores and you can say the Gulf is a dead sea and the Atlantic is getting there. What next. I'll add to this blog when I can to keep you updated. Listen people listen. If you don't have the time to watch a mess of video's at least have the sense to listen to the audio from them. This is not your imaginary incident or virtual playground at risk this is our reality. Our World!
Matthew Roy Simmons Interview before his death.
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Matthew Simmons Slams BP Oil Coverup; Now Dead In Hot Tub
Matthew Simmons, founder of Ocean Energy Institute gave an interview on 7.21.2010 about the BP oil leak as being the biggest environmental coverup EVER and that BP has destroyed the Gulf of Mexico.
Why is this important?
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Matthew Simmons died of an accidental drowning in his hot tub two days ago at his home in Maine. How’s that for convenient?
Matthew Roy Simmons (April 7, 1943– August 8, 2010) was founder and chairman emeritus of Simmons & Company International, and was a prominent advocate of peak oil. Simmons was motivated by the 1973 energy crisis to create an investment banking firm catering to oil companies. In his previous capacity, he served as energy adviser to U.S. President George W. Bush. He was, up until his death, a member of the National Petroleum Council and the Council on Foreign Relations.
Simmons, who lived in Houston, Texas, died at his vacation home in North Haven, Maine, on August 8, 2010, at the age of 67. There is some speculation that his death may have not been accidental, although after he was found dead in his hot tub,the cause of death was ruled "accidental drowning with heart disease a contributing factor".
Simmons was the author of the book Twilight in the Desert: The Coming Saudi Oil Shock and the World Economy, published in 2005. His examination of oil reserve decline rates helped raise awareness of the unreliability of Middle East oil reserves. He gave numerous presentations on Peak Oil and water shortages.
Simmons believed that the Club of Rome predictions are more accurate than usually acknowledged.
Simmons was the founder of the Ocean Energy Institute in Maine. His vision was to make Maine a leader in energy from offshore wind and ocean forces.
Thousands of Horseshoe Crabs Die off Chatham MA Cape Cod
SLCC 2010 Boston Artathon 2.0 SL Residents Filthy Fluno & Winter Ventura & 2 New famous Artist
SLCC Artathon 2.0 Boston Park Plaza
Jeffrey Lipsky (SL: Filthy Fluno), CJ Ross (SL: Winter Nightfire)
SLCC 2010 Second Life Community Convention Massachusetts August 13-15 2010 @ The Boston Park Park Plaza Hotel& Towers. Artists Jeffrey Lipsky &CJ Ross Mentoring two lovely little ladies at the Artathon.
It was wonderful to watch Jeffrey and CJ inspire these two lovely little ladies in the freedom of art. Boy did they show us. I sat there and enjoyed watching Jeffrey and CJ collaborate with each other while they painted on their own canvases but also observed their gentle skills in not just teaching a child how to create a work of art but to let them just do it.
Do it they did. When they were done with their creations I simply went over to observe their art work. The first new budding artist describe her piece to me.
The title of her work was "A Fairies Heaven" The Angel was bringing back all the fairy Powers that had been stolen from Fairy Heaven and they were swirling back into the jar her Angel was holding in her hands. Back to Fairy Heaven where they belonged.
The second Artist created this heart which was huge and that she had placed a flower on top with a peace sign on it to show to the World. She also created a turtle and Angel wings with a heart in the center to represent Goodness.
How cool is that to have sat there for a short time and witness that. Very cool! One of the girls had mentioned to her grandmother this "My Art is really my imagination"
That experience with Jeffrey & CJ will last them a lifetime and I know they will fall back on that for inspiration as they grow. They told the children that the way they created their art was the way famous artist had also created their own work. Their minds were free and open. One of the girls had told their grandmother that day "Nona my art is really my imagination"
Just the thinking behind their works of art was inspiring to me. Both of them independently thought of good things. Fairy Heaven and peace and goodness for the world to see. CJ hung the two girls works of art on the walls of the Boston Park Plaza for literally the World to see. People from all over came to the SLCC and most everyone came into that room and had to of seen their work of course. Now that's real cool!
Sophia Yates~
SLCC 2010 Artathon 2.0
It was wonderful to watch Jeffrey and CJ inspire these two lovely little ladies in the freedom of art. Boy did they show us. I sat there and enjoyed watching Jeffrey and CJ collaborate with each other while they painted on their own canvases but also observed their gentle skills in not just teaching a child how to create a work of art but to let them just do it.
Do it they did. When they were done with their creations I simply went over to observe their art work. The first new budding artist describe her piece to me.
The title of her work was "A Fairies Heaven" The Angel was bringing back all the fairy Powers that had been stolen from Fairy Heaven and they were swirling back into the jar her Angel was holding in her hands. Back to Fairy Heaven where they belonged.
The second Artist created this heart which was huge and that she had placed a flower on top with a peace sign on it to show to the World. She also created a turtle and Angel wings with a heart in the center to represent Goodness.
How cool is that to have sat there for a short time and witness that. Very cool! One of the girls had mentioned to her grandmother this "My Art is really my imagination"
That experience with Jeffrey & CJ will last them a lifetime and I know they will fall back on that for inspiration as they grow. They told the children that the way they created their art was the way famous artist had also created their own work. Their minds were free and open. One of the girls had told their grandmother that day "Nona my art is really my imagination"
Just the thinking behind their works of art was inspiring to me. Both of them independently thought of good things. Fairy Heaven and peace and goodness for the world to see. CJ hung the two girls works of art on the walls of the Boston Park Plaza for literally the World to see. People from all over came to the SLCC and most everyone came into that room and had to of seen their work of course. Now that's real cool!
Sophia Yates~
SLCC 2010 Artathon 2.0
SLCC 2010 Linden Lab CEO Philip Rosedale
Second Life Community Convention Boston MA
Linden Lab CEO - Philip Rosedale Presentation
Linden Lab CEO - Philip Rosedale Presentation
SLCC 2010 Linden Lab CEO Philip Rosedale presentation. I was up in the Balcony recording for a better view. Please forgive the sound & video quality. Thank God for the old Video Tape Recorders and secret electrical outlets. God I was lucky to find one that worked and didn't shock me. I did bring my HD digital recorder but it couldn't stand the test of time. So my intuition before I left the house told me bring your old camera...
I was so happy I did so I could share the presentations I was privileged to witness.
The sound is harsh but it's interesting to watch the body language. Philip Rosedale has just returned to the position as CEO of Linden Lab the company he founded back in 1999.
I'll update this blog just as soon as Im finished uploading the media I shot that day.
SLCC 2010 Boston MA Linden Lab CEO Philip Rosedale
Philip Rosedale | Founder, CEO and Chairman of the Board
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Linden Lab CEO M Linden / Mark Kingdon Steps Down MetaNews Panel Discussion - An Internal Affair
METANEWS Panel Discussion - An Internal Affair
Second Life Birthday Party a Virtual Meltdown
June 24, 2010
June 24th was not a good day for Second life. It was a virtual meltdown. CEO M Linden / Mark Kingdon resigned or was asked to step down. We had a situation at hand and a serious one. M Linden was to speak at the SL7B ( Second Life Birthday celebration) but at the last minute breaking news of his resignation was announced. Second life founder Philip Rosedale spoke in his place to save his virtual face. Who knows what the real details are of this internal affair or in what direction Second Life will go?
I was sent an invitation to attend this panel discussion on the sim Rezzed TV / METANEWS. The panel was going to originally gather on one of the other SL Birthday sims but that changed not sure why. Maybe lag?
Panelists
- Chantal Harvey
- Phaylen Fairchild
- Stuart Warf
- Saffia Widdershins
- Gianna Borgnine
- SecondLie Scribe
During the discussion I can't even tell you how many times I crashed so the audio is 30 minutes off and the transcripts are a little incomplete as well and my patience is now back to normal range. But all this information gives you the overall feel of the the discussion.
I was filming and It was brutal I have to say. It's been brutal for some time. I will put together a small film with a few clips of the discussion so you can see the environment. I really do not want Second life to disappear and I don't think it is going anywhere to soon, it is just in a major transitional period.
This was a major "MOVING ON" moment for Second life for sure and M Linden stepped down or was asked to resign. Who knows? I really don't know the facts and I believe even the panelist don't really know the truth either. Some are privileged than others and privy to some information the ordinary user would not know. But this was to personal to M Linden it was the mans job for goodness sake. We can speculate all we want but only a handful at best know what this strategic move was all about. I hope the people who were let go before him luck as well. In today's economic climate even the best are finding it difficult to find employment. I really wish them well.
The direction of Second Life and Linden Lab is really up to a select few and in their hands. This is all speculative talk from a few that have been inside and out of Second life's back doors. They seem to be up with things and in the know or just have good foresight.
We may all be surprised M Linden may end up on another real continent and still connected to SL & LL. All we can do is wait and see. If we care to. Second life is not a Face Book and never will be. I wouldn't want it to be. I've put in my time almost 4 years so I've got a lot invested in this Second Life myself.
I arrived 30 minutes into this so I may have missed the better part of the discussion. The people who spoke here really were open and as honest as I think they could be. I hope this helps others get a better inside view of how some of the main players see things and what's on their minds.
I will think about this post and try to update it with more information. The panelist really explain it all best. Please listen to the audio posted like I mentioned the panelist say it best. The audience was not allowed to speak so the transcripts tell what they were saying or asking.
PART 1
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PART 2
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Note: I never want to revel in ones misfortune and I will not do it here. I am only blogging what I heard, read and saw and posting it so the others who could not make the discussion could listen to whats going on from this panels perspective. I have no real knowledge of the facts of the CEO's resignation so I wont make any assumptions or claims. This CEO stepping down or being ask to resign is not anything to celebrate. A man lost his job and a company we all love is in trouble. It needs some kind of support so lets all work once again together and figure this thing out..
I'm torn with all of this. I feel my relationship has been a love hate thing and Second life has become so much a part of my real life. Iv invested so much of my own time, my own real money and my own emotions. I only wish it continued success and for the population of Second Life, the residents a lot of luck, lets keep our fingers crossed it levels out and we all come out winners not losers.
Panel Discussion Transcripts with the audiences questions & replies.
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Invitation Note I received
MetaNews Panel – Today at 2pm SLT
Posted on June 24, 2010 by Stuart Warf
With the breaking news that Philip Linden has returned to Second Life as the interim CEO following the departure of M Linden. It is time to start looking at what this all
means for Second Life and it’s future.
We are organizing a panel discussion on this very topic at the Rezzed.TV stage at SL7B Tonight (24th June 2010) at 2pm SLT.
Our Current Panelists
¦Phaylen Fairchild
¦Saffia Widdershins
¦Chantal Harvey
SLurl – maps. id="RadESpellError_36" class="RadEWrongWord">secondlife.com/secondlife/SL7B%20Miraculous/24/37/22
Useful Links
1.PR Newswire
2.Second Life blog post
3.Breaking News item by MetaNews Update
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Second Invitation note received with new location to meet
MetaNews Panel – Today at 2pm SLT
Posted on June 24, 2010 by Stuart Warf
With the breaking news that Philip Linden has returned to Second Life as the interim CEO following the departure of M Linden. It is time to start looking at what this all
means for Second Life and it’s future.
We are organising a panel discussion on this very topic at the Rezzed.TV stage at SL7B Tonight (24th June 2010) at 2pm SLT.
Our Current Panelists
¦Phaylen Fairchild
¦Saffia Widdershins
¦Chantal Harvey
id="RadESpellError_58" class="RadEWrongWord">slurl.com/secondlife/Rezzed%20TV%20Island/14/207/22
Useful Links
1.PR Newswire
2.Second Life blog post
3.Breaking News item by MetaNews Update
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Transcripts
[14:26] A group member named Chantal Harvey owned by the group 'MaMachinima' gave you Panel Metanews.
[14:27] Teleport completed from id="RadESpellError_70" class="RadEWrongWord">slurl.com/secondlife/Acamar/162/179/24
[14:27] Voice not available at your current location
[14:32] Lux Chiantelle: not me, the OTHER one °?°
[14:32] Frequency Picnic: and he's got guns
[14:33] Teleport completed from id="RadESpellError_75" class="RadEWrongWord">slurl.com/secondlife/SL7B%20Paradox/138/253/23
[14:33] Connecting to in-world Voice Chat...
[14:33] Connected
[14:33] Itazura Radio: So you lay off a remote employee who lives in a place where the cost of living allows you to pay them less than if they lived in SF... and that *SAVES* money how?
[14:34] Rose Borchovski: so what this is sl
[14:34] Rose Borchovski: yes ask Saveme back
[14:34] John Zhaoying: Agreed, SecondLie.
[14:35] John Zhaoying: And a couple others.
[14:35] Simeon Bookmite: nods conceirge level folks expect a conceirge
[14:35] Wizard Gynoid: Lol ^-^
[14:35] Delinda Dyrssen: If you let SAve Me back in just please ask hernotto sit up near the stage waving a sighn its annoying
[14:35] Rose Borchovski: wowwwwww
[14:35] Rose Borchovski: OMG
[14:35] Brookston Holiday: lol
[14:35] Srilania Svoboda: YAY! You can say FUCK on television here!
[14:35] Slim Warrior: I dont think any of them will come back
[14:35] Rose Borchovski: yes we need to see some action
[14:36] Rose Borchovski: and then you bann someone
[14:36] Rose Borchovski: and complain because a sign in your face
[14:36] Reed Steamroller: Rose
[14:36] Reed Steamroller: come on.
[14:36] Rose Borchovski: can not belive this
[14:36] Jocelyn Pawpad giggles quietly - "take THAT FCC!!!"
[14:36] Delinda Dyrssen: yep Cory
[14:36] Reed Steamroller: Corey has a job.
[14:36] DrFran Babcock: Grace !!!!!
[14:36] DrFran Babcock: omg
[14:36] John Zhaoying: Grace would be an interesting choice.
[14:36] DrFran Babcock: what a great idea
[14:36] Reed Steamroller: at EMI
[14:36] Wizard Gynoid: SecondLie sounds like a smart guy.
[14:36] Brookston Holiday: well
[14:37] Slim Warrior: exactly Secondlie
[14:37] Delinda Dyrssen: yep
[14:37] GreyWolf Mornington: Agreed Scribe
[14:37] Simeon Bookmite: land search is broken so much is broken still
[14:37] Slim Warrior: its a nightmare for events and Music
[14:37] Namav Abramovic: amen about Grace
[14:37] Srilania Svoboda: yeah. $300 plus $1000 seup is hard to do
[14:37] SecondLie Scribe: awww. i love you too!
[14:37] Minerva Dover: except for saying that Obama is all words. Healthcare policy much, Secondlie?
[14:38] Reed Steamroller: Eh, its like everybody forgets that the Linden bashers were here when Phil was in charge before M showed up
[14:38] Peoney Feld: Asking for policy changes is not blame
[14:38] Delinda Dyrssen: Well he gives more hope than M did you ahve to admit
[14:38] Simeon Bookmite: remeember quicktrees remember sim level control of wind light Philip Linden never finishesd things
[14:38] Slim Warrior: True, we make our own world within SL, but it's now at a higher and higher cost to be able to do that
[14:38] Scarp Godenot: Has anyone noticed the rising tide of OpenSims out there? SL needs to work together with cross world surfing or they will be in danger of being AOL.....
[14:38] Gwenette Writer: EXACTLY . . without the Lindens ALL of them WE WOULD NOT BE HERE geez LL is a piomneering
company in territory that is NEW they - like all of us - are pioneers and WILL make mistakes, backtrack, and so forth yaddayadda
[14:39] Rose Borchovski: I hope when he come s back he delets the bann button, so we have have to start debeta instead just agreeing with eeachother how well you all know it from the sideline
[14:39] Slim Warrior: I Love SL totally
[14:39] Wizard Gynoid: agreed scarp. we need interworld teleporting!!
[14:39] SecondLie Scribe: competing with the customers.
[14:39] Slim Warrior: not necessarily the company that runs it tho
[14:39] John Zhaoying: I hope he makes the ban button actually make the banned user's PC explode.
[14:39] Gwenette Writer: hypergridding is critical to virtual realm development
RETURNED FROM CRASH
[14:47] Reed Steamroller: steve jobs wasn't an engineer, he was a salesman. woz was the engineer.
[14:47] Slim Warrior: Right now its just conjecture as to why M has left
[14:47] Connecting to in-world Voice Chat...
[14:47] Connected
[14:47] Gwenette Writer: GREEEEEED
[14:48] GreyWolf Mornington: He has nice hair.. lol
[14:48] Gwenette Writer: forfeiting cretivity fro bottom line larger profit margin rather shamelessly common hahah
[14:48] Taylor Danick: lol
[14:48] Elrik Merlin: Where LL lost its way was in focusing on people who don't want to be here, and ignoring people who do
[14:48] Wizard Gynoid: ha, right on phaylen!
[14:48] Gwenette Writer: I AGREE!
[14:48] Kallan McCullough: agree again Elrik
[14:48] Vaughan Wingtips: SL is not facebook, twitter, AOL, ICQ etc etc!!! Remember the emotions, that is a critical word "emotions" that SL provokes. This is a platform of dreams and evokes a focus in in people to enable in us an ability to create
[14:48] Reed Steamroller: therefor, the comparison between steve jobs and phil doesn't fit as well as you would think.
[14:48] GreyWolf Mornington: YES
[14:48] No room to sit here, try another spot.
[14:49] Ze Moo: Philip Rosedale - Steve Jobs? SL changed my life! Safari browser did not.. ;P
[14:49] Gwenette Writer: We are VERY DEMANDING pionners ahah
[14:49] Moyra Ares: just wait till mesh support comes...that will change SL
[14:49] truthseekrArtist Xevion: we will have a chip in our brains and have like a holodeck in rl of sl adding on to the experience
[14:49] truthseekrArtist Xevion: i bet
[14:49] SecondLie Scribe: agreed.
[14:49] Gwenette Writer: I AGREE with that completely
[14:49] Rissa Maidstone: Phaylen you can say the same of almost any industry. If companies don't continue to pioneer new ideas, etc they go out of business.
[14:49] John Zhaoying: I agree with this. I think you're totally right.
[14:49] Slim Warrior: lol Gwennette
[14:49] Chimera Cosmos: Mac changed my life at a much earlier stage tho...indeed
[14:49] SecondLie Scribe: it was not yet ready for business, but they pushed it for business.
[14:49] Penelope Drucker: will SL ever be a finished product?
[14:49] Penelope Drucker: I would hope not
[14:49] Jocelyn Pawpad: SL is unique, attempting to marry SL to conservative attitudes (ie: twitter, facebook) is never going to win friends - in SL, on Twitter, anywhere
[14:49] Elrik Merlin: Heh. Macintosh and iPhone changed my life certainly, so...
[14:49] truthseekrArtist Xevion: it is a process not the product, like living until you die
[14:49] Kallan McCullough: good point Penelope
[14:49] DrFran Babcock: they never promote themselves
[14:49] Reed Steamroller: mesh>*
[14:49] Reed Steamroller: they DO advertise
[14:49] Wizard Gynoid: i thought they hired a PR person...
[14:49] Chimera Cosmos: now they are saying it is not profitable
[14:49] Reed Steamroller: they advertise on youtube
[14:49] Reed Steamroller: for one
[14:49] Slim Warrior: The Have a Huge PR company
[14:49] Scarp Godenot: It won'd be anywhere near a finished product until there is inventory safe cross world surfing. That is the point at which VR worlds will take the big jump.....
[14:50] truthseekrArtist Xevion: we need it in education
[14:50] truthseekrArtist Xevion: and art
[14:50] Rissa Maidstone: Well that's true too -- I thought I saw a shift to profesisionalism with M Linden and the new people he brought on.
[14:50] Slim Warrior: and they are spending money on new advertising
[14:50] Simeon Bookmite: i think Mesh was held back because of philips return
[14:50] Kitsune Lassiter: I agree Truth
[14:50] Elrik Merlin: The important thing about a virtual world is "Why should I go there?" not the tech per se
[14:50] Slim Warrior: COO is Bob Koman
[14:50] truthseekrArtist Xevion: my dreams have part of SL in them now
[14:50] Chimera Cosmos: not nearly as cute heheh
[14:50] truthseekrArtist Xevion: i dream SL
[14:50] Namav Abramovic shouts: there are thousands of empty sims
[14:50] Elrik Merlin: ...and "Why should I go there" is US
[14:50] Delinda Dyrssen: I would like to see the next CEO who has an emotional investment.. like Cory
[14:50] Slim Warrior: is next ceo in line
[14:50] Gwenette Writer: agree Scarp HYPERGRIDDING is critical - yes it is also a threat as it gives content to other grids perhaps but there can be controls
[14:50] SecondLie Scribe: bob koman's a straight shooter
[14:50] DrFran Babcock: GRACE MCDUNNOUGH for CEO
[14:51] Elrik Merlin: Hypergridding would be awesome
[14:51] Gwenette Writer: Philip is a metaphysicist
[14:51] Elrik Merlin: We shouldn't be left out
[14:51] Slim Warrior: I think we shoudl have several CEOs
[14:51] Slim Warrior: not just one
[14:51] Simeon Bookmite: nods if he wants to fill the moat he will need hypergrid
[14:51] Beyond Baroque: ?!?
[14:51] Kitsune Lassiter: hello Razz!
[14:51] SecondLie Scribe: one ceo, but multiple empowered VPs
[14:51] Chantal Harvey: we should have female ceo
[14:52] Razzleberry Tunwarm: ?¸(`'·.¸ ? •.¸¸:Hello:.¸¸.• ? ¸.·'´)¸?
[14:52] LOM Runner: who is the CIO?
[14:52] Delinda Dyrssen: Like executive VP's Slimmie?
[14:52] Slim Warrior: yes delinda
[14:52] Elrik Merlin: Slie is right there
[14:52] Delinda Dyrssen: hmmm yes maybe a good idea
[14:52] Gwenette Writer: we need the cloud we need to be our own ONLIVE . . . gear will not alwatys be a barrier
[14:52] Reed Steamroller: a $100 geforce 8800 gt will handle anything SL can throw at it
[14:52] Chimera Cosmos: how can it be done w/o destroying the functionality for those who CAN access it?
[14:52] Brookston Holiday: Render the world on the server side.
[14:52] truthseekrArtist Xevion: SL is the avatars
[14:52] Delinda Dyrssen: I wanted to show a freind SL at her house.. didnt have my computer with me
[14:52] Elrik Merlin: I think cloud rendering will be important - OnLive or Otoy style.
[14:52] truthseekrArtist Xevion: we are SL
[14:53] Delinda Dyrssen: hers was maybe 16 months old and she could not move when we got her logged in
[14:53] Slim Warrior: most of us just want the simple things to function properly in SL... Groups, search etc
[14:53] Chimera Cosmos: ow!
[14:53] Itazura Radio: They can call the new framed out support call center! Yay!
[14:53] Elrik Merlin: The arguments about bandwidth against cloud rendering are shortsighted
[14:53] Itazura Radio: farmer*
[14:53] Jocelyn Pawpad: I'll remember that when I *upgrade* my laptop Reed
[14:53] Srilania Svoboda: Reed, I have a $50 geforce 9500 and it is pure eyeball sex
[14:53] Itazura Radio: farmed*
[14:53] Chimera Cosmos: thought I was only imagining that eveyone hated me...heheheh
[14:53] Gwenette Writer: the problem was not that he did that it was that tbhey assumed they needed to "flatten" the experience and make the viewer more prominant than the 3d world . . . serious immersion breaker V2
[14:53] Beyond Baroque: You do realize the cost of server-side rendering, right? One high end PC per user?
[14:53] Simeon Bookmite: viewer was just not ready
[14:53] Delinda Dyrssen: yep
[14:53] Gwenette Writer: WE NEED THE CLOUD
[14:53] Brookston Holiday: Yes
[14:54] Elrik Merlin: It's being done. It works. You do it on virtualised machines, not individual PCs
[14:54] Delinda Dyrssen: And thats What Phillip said he was going to do
[14:54] SecondLie Scribe: marketing was a flop... they were trying to sell a failed front end for business instead of as an entertainment product
[14:54] Jan Meskin: Elrik, don't confuse people with facts.
[14:54] Beyond Baroque: Doesn't work that way, Elrik, You need a physical GPU.
[14:55] Elrik Merlin: Perhaps today. Perhaps next week. Thereafter.,..?
[14:55] Kallan McCullough: Agree, Secondlie
[14:55] Gwenette Writer: Philip is our HERO hahahaha
[14:55] Chantal Harvey: hehe yes
[14:55] Jocelyn Pawpad: WWPLD?
[14:55] Chimera Cosmos: getting announcements about a Parade for Philip from Bay City to Ahern
[14:56] Chimera Cosmos: starting soon apparently
[14:56] Gwenette Writer: WIthout the gleam in his eye decades ago about the virtual realm we WOULD NOT BE HERE . . much respect ALWAYS to Philip to Mitch & to ALL of US!!
[14:56] Scarp Godenot: VR worlds are here to stay, they are not going away. The form they take is up for grabs. Improving the platforms should be the key strategy of SL and ALL virtual worlds.
[14:56] Elrik Merlin: Yes, IP still needs to be properly addressed
[14:56] Razzleberry Tunwarm: ?¸(`'·.¸ ? •.¸¸:Hello:.¸¸.• ? ¸.·'´)¸?
[14:56] Razzleberry Tunwarm: Grey
[14:57] DrFran Babcock: why Grace McDunnough?
[14:57] Gwenette Writer: I think WE can make sl be more than a NICHE thing . . we cannot count on ouir "parents" to do all the work . .
[14:57] Reed Steamroller: Gianna: who put that computer together for you?
[14:57] Slim Warrior: hehe
[14:57] SecondLie Scribe: hahahahahaha <3 reed
[14:57] don Berithos: Question
[14:57] DrFran Babcock: I love her!!!!
[14:57] Gwenette Writer: for what?
[14:57] Srilania Svoboda: What do you think the biggest issue with streaming is, and what do you all feel is the best solution?
[14:57] DrFran Babcock: yes, I know
[14:57] Chimera Cosmos: if you google hard you can find out
[14:58] Delinda Dyrssen: I can tell from reading her blog that shes very intelligent
[14:58] GreyWolf Mornington: Do you think LL will seek more input from the community on the direction to go?
[14:58] DrFran Babcock: I agree
[14:58] Namav Abramovic shouts: QUESTION: What was M Linden's vision? And what are Philip's goals for SL going forward?
[14:58] DrFran Babcock: hehe
[14:58] Chimera Cosmos: woot
[14:58] Gwenette Writer: >>>>>>LOL<<<<<<
[14:58] Whirly Fizzle: lol
[14:58] Kitsune Lassiter: lol
[14:58] Wizard Gynoid: Lol ^-^
[14:58] Wizard Gynoid: on prokofy
[14:58] Reed Steamroller: you know you've made it when prok writes about how wrong you are
[14:58] DrFran Babcock: Wheeee! ^.^
[14:58] Kitsune Lassiter: rofl!
[14:59] Scarp Godenot: Namav, you have hit the nail on the head... nobody knows what anyones 'vision' is, becaue this is considered a trade secret.....
[14:59] DrFran Babcock: It's an inspired choice
[14:59] Gwenette Writer: Namav we all wonder yes
[14:59] Chantal Harvey: it will soon
[14:59] Stuart Warf: (they're on Rezzed.TV soon)
[14:59] Stuart Warf: too*
[14:59] SecondLie Scribe: whew
[14:59] Chantal Harvey: ;o)
[15:00] SecondLie Scribe: LET'S HAVE A MEETIN!
[15:00] GreyWolf Mornington: nods
[15:00] Srilania Svoboda: What do you think the biggest issue with streaming is, and what do you all feel is the best solution?
[15:00] Slim Warrior: lmao
[15:00] Kitsune Lassiter: here here!
[15:00] Gwenette Writer: LL promoting the "creative work" of residents in rl is something LL has missed understanding . . they is GREAT VALUE in the content here
[15:01] Namav Abramovic shouts: QUESTION: What was M Linden's vision? And what are Philip's goals for SL going forward?
[15:01] GreyWolf Mornington: As a Technician I find that ingenners do not understand the users
[15:01] SecondLie Scribe: biggest issue with streaming is the source bandwidth
[15:01] Jocelyn Pawpad: I've an open question for anyone on the panel who wishes to field it... what (if any) controls migh one reasonably put in place to minimise the chance of a repeat of Phillip appointing someone like M Linden... people who would have such a disruptive and detrimental effect on existing residents, the very same people who bought into Phillip's stated dream in the first place?
[15:01] SecondLie Scribe: M's vision was Monetizing and marketing a product that wasn't yet ready for prime time.
[15:02] Brookston Holiday: much like god
[15:02] GreyWolf Mornington: inginners.. ugh.. Engineers
[15:02] Kitsune Lassiter: What is Linden Labs going to to to help creators and help get SL economy back to what it was a year ago?
[15:02] don Berithos: who exactly do i contact about at ll about a major sailing group wanting to have a interactive secondlife display at rl event .
[15:02] Gwenette Writer: they do it over beer and pizza one told me ahha
[15:02] Kitsune Lassiter: lol
[15:02] Simeon Bookmite: jira is a graveyard
[15:02] Scarp Godenot: Let's realize that Second Life, being the biggest and first VR world, needs now to realize that their position of exclusivity is coming to an end. This is where they need to focus their efforts in my opinion.
[15:03] Slim Warrior: yes Scarp
[15:03] Namav Abramovic shouts: why isn't SL ready for prime time? I think it is
[15:03] don Berithos shouts: yes
[15:03] Slim Warrior: well not the 1st (
[15:03] SecondLie Scribe: WHO WANTS A SECONDLIE BEAR?????
[15:03] Slim Warrior: Worlds .com was the 1st
[15:03] Jocelyn Pawpad: I've an open question for anyone on the panel who wishes to field it... what (if any) controls migh one reasonably put in place to minimise the chance of a repeat of Phillip appointing someone like M Linden... people who would have such a disruptive and detrimental effect on existing residents, the very same people who bought into Phillip's stated dream in the first place?
[15:04] Namav Abramovic shouts: I do want a bear
[15:04] Stuart Warf: Lets start a show called CEO Idol
[15:04] Gwenette Writer: One assumes that M followed Philip's wishes and guidelines. . .
[15:04] Slim Warrior: ahaha Stu
[15:04] Gwenette Writer: M may have gone overboard
[15:04] GreyWolf Mornington: Votes to bring back Pathfinder Linden to restore the faith of the Education and non-profit community
[15:04] Slim Warrior: I do think we shoudl have more than one CEO
[15:04] Chantal Harvey: lol stuart
[15:04] Wizard Gynoid: i think philip made the admission that they weren't profitable.
[15:04] Srilania Svoboda: Someone who knows SL, lives SL, and LOVES SL
[15:05] SecondLie Scribe deletes account and runs
[15:05] Delinda Dyrssen: I think its an extremely unique CEO role
[15:05] Reed Steamroller: Gianna says she would vote for ME
[15:05] Slim Warrior: sl users have become lindens
[15:05] Chantal Harvey: hahahahahaha
[15:05] Gianna Borgnine: ummm... NO
[15:05] Slim Warrior: and they then are so held by compnay policies that they ar enot able to achieve the things they wanted to in the 1st place
[15:05] Wizard Gynoid: carl metropolitan?
[15:05] Chantal Harvey: but a resident is a good idea
[15:05] Beyond Baroque: Actually it shoudl be a resident
[15:05] SecondLie Scribe: hire john z back from blue mars.
[15:05] Gwenette Writer: maybe more than ONE PERSON split the position???
[15:05] Slim Warrior: more than one woudl be far better
[15:06] don Berithos: on with some sort of future vision thats for sure ,
[15:06] Beyond Baroque: More than one CEO is a recipe for chaos
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[15:09] truthseekrArtist Xevion: Idea Connection Systems google it
[15:09] Connecting to in-world Voice Chat...
[15:09] Connected
[15:09] Kitsune Lassiter: lol
[15:09] Simeon Bookmite: lol
[15:09] Delinda Dyrssen: if I could vote on it i would vote for Cory or Grace.. probably lean mroe towards Grace
[15:09] truthseekrArtist Xevion: He was in charge of Office of Innovation at Kodak
[15:09] truthseekrArtist Xevion: beofre making his own company
[15:09] Gwenette Writer: Is it about management or is it about creativity?? Management skills are all thin gs learned in the past from companies that are NOT necessarily breaking ground . . perhaps look to the companies that did/are breaking ground what are thier
management paradigms: Google, EBay ??
[15:09] truthseekrArtist Xevion: international
[15:09] Scarp Godenot: Eventually, the tier model will be less important than the 'sales tax' model of revenue generation. We have seen how much bigger the numbers are from sales than tier. This spread of monetary difference will continue to increase...
[15:09] Kitsune Lassiter: really
[15:09] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: Do you know what Linden Labs going to to to help creators and help get SL economy back to what it was a year ago?
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[15:16] Scarp Godenot: Phaylen can take on the head of the Horde, she scared the crap out of me! ha ha
[15:16] Gianna Borgnine: I agree Grey
[15:16] Delinda Dyrssen: yeah I agree Grey I was just kidding
[15:16] Connecting to in-world Voice Chat...
[15:16] Connected
[15:16] Slim Warrior: she would be a choice for me for CEO
[15:16] truthseekrArtist Xevion: if you want your sl avi painted as a rl work of art, IM me, i do that
[15:16] Atsuko Watanabe: why is SL so disabled unfriendly
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[15:16] Scarp Godenot: Phaylen can take on the head of the Horde, she scared the crap out of me! ha ha
[15:16] Gianna Borgnine: I agree Grey
[15:16] Delinda Dyrssen: yeah I agree Grey I was just kidding
[15:16] Connecting to in-world Voice Chat...
[15:16] Connected
[15:16] Slim Warrior: she would be a choice for me for CEO
[15:16] truthseekrArtist Xevion: if you want your sl avi painted as a rl work of art, IM me, i do that
[15:16] Atsuko Watanabe: why is SL so disabled unfriendly
[15:17] Atsuko Watanabe: especially for persons who have visual or hearing impairments
[15:17] truthseekrArtist Xevion: www. id="RadESpellError_596" class="RadEWrongWord">evesaturnart.com
[15:17] truthseekrArtist Xevion: shameless self promtion and opportunist here
[15:17] truthseekrArtist Xevion: heh
[15:17] Delinda Dyrssen: Atsuko.. thre are some resideints who are trying to help in that area..including seeing Eye dogs that help with tps and chat etc
[15:17] LOM Runner: zynga going international
[15:17] Grey Nacht shouts: Search for Virtual Guide Dog, you might be plesantly surprised
[15:17] Scarp Godenot: We will NEVER go back to 2d only when 3d is with us.
[15:18] labella Farella: twitter sucks
[15:18] Elrik Merlin: Twitter makes no money. Period.
[15:18] Ataro Asbrink: facebook too
[15:18] Atsuko Watanabe: am involved in thos projects
[15:18] Wizard Gynoid: farmville is stoopid
[15:18] truthseekrArtist Xevion: lol
[15:18] labella Farella: we got bunnies
[15:18] truthseekrArtist Xevion: lol
[15:18] Sophia Yates: I hate farmville
[15:18] labella Farella: lol
[15:18] Elrik Merlin: Farmville is just ridiculous
[15:18] Sophia Yates: serious
[15:18] GreyWolf Mornington: I'd rather raise bunnies
[15:18] labella Farella: ozimals!
[15:18] Slim Warrior: Farmville is now on iphone..
[15:18] Delinda Dyrssen: People have lost thier jos becasue of farmville
[15:18] don Berithos: yea that think
[15:18] Srilania Svoboda: The issue is twitter and facebook caters to the less cerebral people. Most of us in SL don't do a lot
[15:18] labella Farella: ozimals= awsome
[15:18] truthseekrArtist Xevion: lol
[15:18] Wizard Gynoid: SL is not stoopid. that's why i am here.
[15:18] Delinda Dyrssen: jobs*
[15:18] Taylor Danick: bunnies ...much easier
[15:18] Sophia Yates: Facebook is a pain. I will take sl
[15:18] Jocelyn Pawpad: First Life is stupid
[15:18] Taylor Danick: lol
[15:19] Chantal Harvey: lol
[15:19] Gwenette Writer: The question is do you want to cater to stupidity or do you want to create a market for a different type of consciousness??
[15:19] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: I have pocet metaverse on my iphone
[15:19] GreyWolf Mornington: At least we have some privacy. Facebook offers none of that
[15:19] Gwenette Writer shouts: The question is do you want to cater to stupidity or do you want to create a market for a different type of consciousness??
[15:19] Namav Abramovic: zynga is seeing explosive growth. farmville has 84 million users, over 1% of the population of Earth
[15:19] Taylor Danick: i removed myself from Facebook for that reason
[15:19] truthseekrArtist Xevion: use hypnosis, you can feel SL like it is rl if you get tranced into it.. and it is cool
[15:19] Elrik Merlin: In fact most applications on Facebook are worse than IE for security risk
[15:19] Chantal Harvey: <---has seen the big green bubble
[15:20] labella Farella: dang Loody
[15:20] labella Farella: lol
[15:20] Wizard Gynoid: facebook removed me because i'm a fake avatar and not real
[15:20] Loody Graves: sorry
[15:20] truthseekrArtist Xevion: i have sold more art on SL then in rl
[15:20] Sophia Yates: could he repeat what he said about that?
[15:20] Elrik Merlin: Popularity is not the same as quality
[15:20] labella Farella: np=)
[15:20] Sophia Yates: I crashed lol
[15:20] Delinda Dyrssen: aaaack
[15:20] Scarp Godenot: Farmville is the 'known about' sl experience in my opinion. When bandwidth is much bigger and computers are faster. That is when 3D Virtual Worlds will be more relevant to the average Jane.
[15:20] truthseekrArtist Xevion: omg crashing
[15:20] Sophia Yates: SecondLie could you repeat what you said about Art and not being in the place it should be in SL?
[15:20] truthseekrArtist Xevion: it is a great way to escpae if you say you crashed and just poof
[15:20] Grey Nacht: I can show them a big green and red bubble at Pala or Greyhaven LoL
[15:21] truthseekrArtist Xevion: a great out
[15:21] truthseekrArtist Xevion: heh
[15:21] SecondLie Scribe: <3 dirk
[15:21] truthseekrArtist Xevion: not being rude, i just crashed
[15:21] truthseekrArtist Xevion: lol
[15:21] SecondLie Scribe: sophia - i can't even remember my shoe size, let alone what i said 3 mins ago
[15:21] SecondLie Scribe: it'll be i nthe recording stu posts
[15:21] Aleja Asturias: There is a lot of talk about Second Life and disability access... but not among people that actually care and can make a difference or be listened to, apparently
[15:21] truthseekrArtist Xevion: learned Alias Wavefront and that was 2000 and this is a miracle
[15:21] truthseekrArtist Xevion: SL
[15:21] SecondLie Scribe: i agree that disability access has taken a step backwards in v2... shows how disconnected the lab was under M and T
[15:21] GreyWolf Mornington: the informed know that Sl is much more than chat, poseballs and dancing, It's Education, charity and so much more
[15:21] truthseekrArtist Xevion: it blows my mind
[15:22] SecondLie Scribe: SL should be able to empower those with disabilities and restrictions put upon them by others.
[15:22] labella Farella: it felt like a marketplace
[15:22] truthseekrArtist Xevion: interactive 3=D in a virtual world...... AMAZING!
[15:22] SecondLie Scribe: Sl's welcome experience is now a goddamned mall
[15:22] labella Farella: unless you made something you have to leave secondlife
[15:22] SecondLie Scribe: hi monroe!
[15:22] labella Farella: thats how i felt
[15:22] truthseekrArtist Xevion: a mall..... oh let me show you beter places
[15:22] Atsuko Watanabe: yes, is making it almost manditory that you be abled
[15:22] truthseekrArtist Xevion: like the art galleries
[15:22] Slim Warrior: agreed Phaylen
[15:23] Srilania Svoboda: Secondlife Scribe, I AM disabled, and SL gives me a portal to some kind of life. I am actually happier in SL than RL would ever get for me
[15:23] truthseekrArtist Xevion: why is it all moobs go nuts with sex?
[15:23] Atsuko Watanabe: the number of places that refuse to even put in a ramp
[15:23] truthseekrArtist Xevion: noobs
[15:23] GreyWolf Mornington: but yet SL brings us virtual helping hands, virtual ability. show me that in Facebook or Farmville
[15:23] Jocelyn Pawpad: that was the big issue - a lot of people felt sidelined by Mark's direction
[15:23] Atsuko Watanabe: which is zero effort in SL
[15:23] Namav Abramovic shouts: how can we find your blogs and videos?
[15:23] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: no...I'm excited too Phaylen
[15:24] labella Farella: 2009 babies know nothing about SL!
[15:24] Monroe Jigsaw shouts: hi taylor P:
[15:24] Taylor Danick: hi Monroe... (not shouting)
[15:24] Sophia Yates: eeeek
[15:24] labella Farella: I was happier in 2007
[15:24] SecondLie Scribe: twitter.com/ id="RadESpellError_820" class="RadEWrongWord">secondlie
[15:24] Taylor Danick: :x
[15:24] Srilania Svoboda: M Linden basicly acted more like the residents were a disease, and didn't cotton to the majority of people who actually pay the bills around here
[15:24] Elrik Merlin: My problem with M's reign was that the needs of existing residents seemed to be ignored in favour of nebulous non-existent potential clients
[15:24] Atsuko Watanabe: if deaf hard time often convincing people need for typing
[15:25] SecondLie Scribe: elrik - m linden was looking for user n+1 instead of caring what users n thought
[15:25] Slim Warrior: yes that too Phaylen
[15:25] labella Farella: v2 sucks for machinima we could take the ui off
[15:25] labella Farella: couldnt
[15:25] truthseekrArtist Xevion: omg
[15:25] SecondLie Scribe: atsuko - i am partially deaf, going deaf slowly.
[15:25] Sophia Yates: very!
[15:25] truthseekrArtist Xevion: not able to rez?
[15:25] Gwenette Writer: frightening yes the inexpereinced leading the creative effort to expand our world does seem ratehr moronic
[15:25] Taylor Danick: hands Monroe a Phillip shoulder pet
[15:25] Kitsune Lassiter: 0.0
[15:26] Elrik Merlin: I regret I must be off... thanks everyone for a great discussion. Night all
[15:26] Namav Abramovic shouts: zynga is seeing explosive growth. farmville has 84 million users, over 1% of the population of Earth. If SL made it possible for residents to make similar games, then investment may come in to create games to compete with things like FarmVille
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[15:26] truthseekrArtist Xevion: safe paths Elrik
[15:26] labella Farella: whats zynga
[15:26] labella Farella: lol
[15:26] Elrik Merlin: Thanks truthseekr
[15:26] truthseekrArtist Xevion:
[15:26] Slim Warrior: Byee Elrik
[15:27] Gwenette Writer: pleeeeeeeease if you want the flat world of farmville go there
[15:27] Namav Abramovic: Atsuko, what should L do for people with disabilities?
[15:27] Jocelyn Pawpad: look, Im not going to shitcan Mark out of hand - I too work in marketing, but what I *do* know is that if you are going to treat residents as customers then you NEED to have a product the residents wish to purchase - Mark seemed not to think his existing market was worth consideration over the markets he *MIGHT* have got
[15:27] labella Farella: i can twitter on sl watch
[15:28] labella Farella: is watching a discussion
[15:28] Atsuko Watanabe: they could start with a ramp at the entrance to this forum
[15:28] labella Farella: done
[15:28] labella Farella: lol
[15:28] SecondLie Scribe pokes Stuart... it's good to let the womenfolk talk.
[15:28] Scarp Godenot: Plurk is the threaded Twitter, and therefore much better...... But the adoption rate is low..... sigh
[15:28] Atsuko Watanabe: need to work with the guide dog group to get appropriate markers in the SL world
[15:28] Gianna Borgnine: lol
[15:28] Reed Steamroller: ha
[15:28] Sophia Yates: yup
[15:28] GreyWolf Mornington: they should work with groups like virtual Helping Hands and virtual Ability who have worked for those kinds of Accessability changels
[15:28] Sophia Yates: bs
[15:28] labella Farella whispers: we dont like it!
[15:29] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: exact;y!
[15:29] GreyWolf Mornington: again... work with those in world who know the platform
[15:29] Stuart Warf: (i still like 2.0)
[15:29] Gianna Borgnine: me too
[15:29] labella Farella: you lie
[15:29] Atsuko Watanabe: LL needs to work with them not agin thim
[15:29] Sophia Yates: yes
[15:29] labella Farella: lol
[15:29] truthseekrArtist Xevion: i am a mac user
[15:29] Wizard Gynoid: right crap!!!
[15:29] Jocelyn Pawpad: The emperors new clothes Mr Scribe
[15:29] Sophia Yates: YES!!!!
[15:29] truthseekrArtist Xevion: not a pc or del person
[15:29] Wizard Gynoid: EXACTLY
[15:29] Rose Borchovski: excuse me
[15:29] Srilania Svoboda: And considering many places, I almost NEVER see 2.0. It's a sea of Emerald GREEN
[15:29] Sophia Yates: thank you!
[15:29] Atsuko Watanabe: I run linux should be platform neutral
[15:29] Namav Abramovic shouts: Phaylen: how can we find your blogs and videos?
[15:29] labella Farella: emerald for governor!
[15:29] truthseekrArtist Xevion: i like original viewer
[15:30] Slim Warrior: its a bit liek going back to them telling you to 'clear cache' when something didnt work
[15:30] Gwenette Writer shouts: it was just not ONE man there was a whole batch of folks that came in and DID NOT KNOW THE INTERFAC E and HOW it was used . . .
[15:30] Wizard Gynoid: hehe
[15:30] labella Farella: it was?
[15:30] Phaylen Fairchild shouts: Namav: www. id="RadESpellError_963" class="RadEWrongWord">phaylen.com !! xoxxo
[15:30] Sophia Yates: yes
[15:30] truthseekrArtist Xevion: is linden the only shared economic system?
[15:30] Wizard Gynoid: but why design the product so that when you log in from emerald you lose all your clothes???
[15:30] truthseekrArtist Xevion: that is global?
[15:30] labella Farella: i havent been on 2.0 in a while
[15:30] Reed Steamroller: advanced menu still won't come up in linux viewer :\
[15:30] Gwenette Writer shouts: it was NOT because it was an ignorant TEAM it was NOT MARK alone
[15:30] LOM Runner: me neither Iabella
[15:31] Slim Warrior: as CEo you have several teams that work under you.. he can't be blamed for all the disasters
[15:31] truthseekrArtist Xevion: QUESTION
[15:31] LOM Runner: I just DL 2.1 today
[15:31] truthseekrArtist Xevion: is linden the only shared economic system?
[15:31] LOM Runner: was going to try it later
[15:31] don Berithos: looks like a bandade
[15:31] labella Farella: its a great design
[15:31] Namav Abramovic shouts: Thanks Phaylen
[15:31] Atsuko Watanabe: am always afraid to upgrade
[15:31] truthseekrArtist Xevion: that is global beside gold?
[15:31] Atsuko Watanabe: takes forever to get bugs worked out
[15:31] truthseekrArtist Xevion: does any one know?
[15:31] labella Farella: it was just not consulted to residents
[15:31] SecondLie Scribe: RAWR ATTACK RAWR
[15:31] Sophia Yates: it depended on how you used sl as far as the client
[15:32] Scarp Godenot: For the viewer two lovers, why won't they consider adding the obvious improvements made by Emerald and others? That is the question, WHY don't they listen to the suggestions?
[15:32] Gwenette Writer: they wanted it out for the opening of Shanghai yes?? the timing was rather ahh perfect . . I think thye
expected a rush from the machinima there perhaps??
[15:32] SecondLie Scribe: Prad: blog. id="RadESpellError_1012" class="RadEWrongWord">pradprathivi.com/2010/06/24/linden-lab-ceo-change-mark-kingdon-out-philip-rosedale-returns/
[15:32] Simeon Bookmite: it was a bottleneck they could not move on till it came out so they forced it
[15:32] Gwenette Writer: V2 i refer to here
[15:32] labella Farella: first off
[15:32] labella Farella: we use to have betas!
[15:32] Sophia Yates: iyes
[15:32] labella Farella: and we consulted
[15:32] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: Viewer 2.0 is so hard to use to build with...isn't that why many of us are here?
[15:32] Whirly Fizzle: They have added some Emerald stuff already. They are just a bit slow to do it.
[15:32] labella Farella: we were not involved in 2.0
[15:32] Reed Steamroller: i don't have much trouble building w/ 2.0
[15:33] Reed Steamroller: and it is a bit more intuitive
[15:33] Scarp Godenot: Try to write a script on viewer 2, where the line numbering is all gone...... what is with that?
[15:33] Kitsune Lassiter: I can't use it wellat all
[15:33] Grey Nacht: It is funny that the latest 2.0 release is an alpha release, not even a beta.
[15:33] Reed Steamroller: and while the advanced menu doesn't work in the linux version, voice does, and the camera constraints aren't all screwed up
[15:33] labella Farella: anyone know about an RC lol
[15:33] Bevan Whitfield: must hop - thanks for a very intriguing moment
[15:33] Kitsune Lassiter: oh?
[15:33] labella Farella: we were not consulted
[15:33] Gwenette Writer: aloha nui loa Bevan
[15:33] SecondLie Scribe: that's wallace linden's job, being the social media thermometer
[15:33] Whirly Fizzle: No line numbers on v2? o.O I havnt used V2 but thats no good!
[15:33] Wizard Gynoid: half of us here are running emerald
[15:33] Sophia Yates: follow the grn dots lol
[15:34] labella Farella: they took away our forums
[15:34] Reed Steamroller: lol
[15:34] Kitsune Lassiter: omg
[15:34] Reed Steamroller: fuck tard
[15:34] Wizard Gynoid: fucktard?
[15:34] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: Question, does the cerruency of a linden the only other finanacial systems in global use besdies gold?
[15:34] labella Farella: all we have is the blog
[15:34] don Berithos: silver
[15:34] Gwenette Writer: truth: yes
[15:34] truthseekrArtist Xevion: currency*
[15:34] Gwenette Writer: as currency yes
[15:34] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: this has a poltical element to it then
[15:34] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: rl
[15:34] labella Farella: lol
[15:35] GreyWolf Mornington: Kirstens Viewer had the same interface... runs smoother and includes favored emerald features like double-click TP's and Fast Alpha. why can't LL learn from this? this is because Kirsten is a user and understands the platform
[15:35] labella Farella: I already love you
[15:35] labella Farella: haha
[15:35] Reed Steamroller: Torley > *
[15:35] GreyWolf Mornington: Pathfind
[15:35] Gwenette Writer: torley ahs a huge folowing
[15:35] Sophia Yates: lol
[15:35] GreyWolf Mornington: Pathfinder
[15:35] Scarp Godenot: Torley is critical to SL users. fer crissake
[15:35] Kristine Kristan: Torley is my favorite Linden, his tutorials are great
[15:35] Whirly Fizzle: Torley is great
[15:35] Wizard Gynoid: i think torley is good too
[15:36] Sophia Yates: yup
[15:36] Whirly Fizzle: Oh wow, didnt know that
[15:36] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: my son has asperger
[15:36] Kitsune Lassiter: omg
[15:36] labella Farella: lol
[15:36] Wizard Gynoid: torley produces
[15:36] labella Farella: the sad thing is Torley has helped millions
[15:36] Scarp Godenot: Getting rid of Torley would be incredibly stupid and unpopular. How many people have used his tips and videos? MOST
[15:36] Atsuko Watanabe: with asbergers maybe an outline version should be avaliable
[15:37] Sophia Yates: lol i ki hate that
[15:37] Atsuko Watanabe: eliminate a lot of the eye candy
[15:37] Whirly Fizzle: lol
[15:37] Simeon Bookmite: having new users using viewer 2 while the old avoided it meant there was no one could show new people how to do anything usefull
[15:37] Scarp Godenot: Help, that is such a sorry sorry thing..... ha ha
[15:37] Jocelyn Pawpad: Torley is, like it or not, a popular lad. Getting rid of him would be a body blow to LL and they know it
[15:38] Atsuko Watanabe: 99% of help is user to user not formal system
[15:38] Srilania Svoboda: Shared Media is a dangerous thing that a lot of people don't want
[15:38] Chantal Harvey: pathfinder is equally popular, and so is blue
[15:38] GreyWolf Mornington: agreed chantal
[15:38] Reed Steamroller: if torley were fired.... some crazy resident would walk into the lab with bombs strapped to his chest
[15:38] Jocelyn Pawpad: the mass cuts were a mistake
[15:38] Sophia Yates: awww
[15:38] Chantal Harvey: es
[15:38] Sophia Yates: blue
[15:38] Scarp Godenot: Don't underestimate the reach of Torley to the everyday user. I am amazed you don't realize this.
[15:38] Atsuko Watanabe: as linux user I believe in the open source movement
[15:38] labella Farella: O
[15:38] Sophia Yates: ohh
[15:39] Whirly Fizzle: Oh wow :o(
[15:39] labella Farella: the eff
[15:39] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: 0.0
[15:39] Sophia Yates: OMD!
[15:39] Slim Warrior: omg
[15:39] Sophia Yates: BTARDS
[15:39] GreyWolf Mornington: shakes head... ouch
[15:39] Whirly Fizzle: Thats shit
[15:39] Sophia Yates: awww
[15:39] Jocelyn Pawpad: my heart goes out to her - I mean that
[15:39] Kitsune Lassiter: yes...it is
[15:39] Atsuko Watanabe: avaliablility of source code makes things work faster and smoother
[15:39] labella Farella: half ass
[15:39] Namav Abramovic: OH MY GOD
[15:39] Slim Warrior: yikes
[15:39] Sophia Yates: omg!
[15:39] Kitsune Lassiter: omg
[15:39] labella Farella: wow
[15:39] Whirly Fizzle: Shit
[15:39] Namav Abramovic: SUCKING
[15:39] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: treat others as you wish to be treated
[15:39] Kitsune Lassiter: what the....
[15:40] labella Farella: i still dont get the layoffs
[15:40] Brookston Holiday: Jacky Treehorn treats objects like women.
[15:40] labella Farella: they had a big finace gain
[15:40] Grey Nacht: This is where the chat relay comes into its own, we are only hearing half the conversations
[15:40] Jocelyn Pawpad: Im sorry, but that is what people like Mark do
[15:40] Kitsune Lassiter: lol...you need to put one down here Grey!
[15:40] labella Farella: buisness
[15:40] Jocelyn Pawpad: precisely
[15:41] Scarp Godenot: Question: does LL every try to fill jobs from people who are already SL users? I would seem a good recruiting ground, at least to start with?
[15:41] Loody Graves: wtf?
[15:41] LOM Runner: rape
[15:41] labella Farella: she was sweet
[15:42] Jocelyn Pawpad: I'll bet
[15:42] truthseekrArtist Xevion: that is crazy
[15:42] Scarp Godenot: The things Blue was involved with, never seemed to get done in my experience...... (which is not a lot)
[15:43] Kitsune Lassiter: you're kidding me....
RETURNED FROM CRASH
[16:00] Connecting to in-world Voice Chat...
[16:00] Connected
[16:00] Namav Abramovic shouts: it's a question of how corrupted Philip has been by the board and big investors
[16:00] No room to sit here, try another spot.
[16:00] amelie Ragu shouts: I think to want to resemble the social networks is a marketing error for sl because sl is a niche of creation
the facebook and other networks are punts forms for communicating
[16:01] Gwenette Writer shouts: we wil all have an ava and it will go everywhere with all its assets -some rezzable in some worlds some in others 9assets - and the comp nay that will MAKE the MONEY is the one that warehouses the av IDs and assets
[16:01] Jocelyn Pawpad: you would hope so
[16:01] labella Farella: lol
[16:01] Gwenette Writer: Monroe I wanna see ya in a dark alley hahha
[16:01] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: why only 25 groups?
[16:01] labella Farella: well said
[16:01] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: i want more groups in my profile
[16:02] labella Farella: me too
[16:02] Ataro Asbrink: i don't want goldman linden to be the next CEO
[16:02] LiquiDiamond Frost shouts: Hear hear to more groups!
[16:02] Monroe Jigsaw shouts: Im Brian and so is my wife!
[16:02] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: it is very compromising to only have 25 groups
[16:02] Wizard Gynoid: we all want the groups. why don't they fix these things?
[16:02] Jocelyn Pawpad: they will come
[16:02] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: IMs capping suck too
[16:03] labella Farella shouts: oh that was an epic fail when voice wouldnt work on monday lol
[16:03] LANCE Rembrandt: communication with chat and voice should be priority 1
[16:03] LANCE Rembrandt: they should have hooked up with vonage when they had it on the table
[16:03] Jocelyn Pawpad: hear hear
[16:03] Gwenette Writer shouts: Communication PERIOD should ALWAYS be a priority if it is to be a SOCIAL network . . .
[16:03] Brookston Holiday: HERE HERE!
[16:03] Wizard Gynoid: you can get hundred and hundred on a region in open sim. i've heard one thousand.
[16:03] SecondLie Scribe: script limits
[16:03] SecondLie Scribe: ims capped
[16:03] SecondLie Scribe: group limits
[16:03] SecondLie Scribe: m's regime was all about limits
[16:03] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: yea
[16:04] LANCE Rembrandt: vonage was willing to be the communicaton manager for sl
[16:04] Slim Warrior: its been an interesting discussion here today
[16:04] Saffia Widdershins: Shenlei's been running the Battle of Gettysburg on Science Sim
[16:04] Slim Warrior: Ty Stu and the panel
[16:04] Slim Warrior: see you all soon..
[16:04] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: be innovative and open minded not limited... but freedom does have limitations but how much should this freedom have in its limits?
[16:04] Saffia Widdershins: that needs a good few
[16:04] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: 4 avatars here
[16:04] truthseekrArtist Xevion: 4 accounts here
[16:05] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: I agree Gianna
[16:05] Scarp Godenot: Yes, that is completely true.
[16:05] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: 4 accounts for more groups
[16:05] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: that is wasteful
[16:05] Wizard Gynoid: rezzable has been pulling out of SL for some time, i.e. greenies
[16:05] Gwenette Writer: right ahha
[16:05] Saffia Widdershins: Yes
[16:05] Scarp Godenot: Transparency beats speculation when you are managing PR every time.
[16:05] Saffia Widdershins: Greenies is the last
[16:05] Gwenette Writer shouts: telepathy sihs
[16:05] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: snoopy dance if they do
[16:06] Jocelyn Pawpad: not really Gianna
[16:06] LOM Runner: I just saw www. id="RadESpellError_1354" class="RadEWrongWord">venuegen.com/ today..
[16:06] Saffia Widdershins: and tomorrow they are launching their Unity 3D browser
[16:06] labella Farella: oh
[16:06] labella Farella: I was there at sl pro
[16:06] Chantal Harvey: M announced mesh at metameets
[16:06] Chantal Harvey: im may
[16:06] labella Farella: he had mesh in the presentation that morning
[16:06] Gwenette Writer: ahh yes I want Unity 3d is sale priced thru end of month sending email re: edu price
[16:06] SecondLie Scribe: t announced mesh and did an early demo at slcc 2009
[16:06] Scarp Godenot: ha ha ha
[16:06] labella Farella: I was there for the run through
[16:07] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: They need to give us dates
[16:07] Saffia Widdershins: That's a web browser to access the Heritage Key grid
[16:07] amelie Ragu shouts: doesn't linden prevent has any creators to promote their works via its networks?
I think that it is very good average to promote art sl
[16:07] labella Farella: it was the day before sorry
[16:07] Chantal Harvey vows she does it all the time
[16:07] labella Farella: and the next morning mesh was out
[16:07] Scarp Godenot: There is really zero reason to not announce the standard for mesh. No reason at all.
[16:07] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: i can imagine myself as a lil old lady in a rocking chairplaying SL
[16:07] Namav Abramovic shouts: what is Mesh?
[16:08] Gwenette Writer shouts: it might be a BUSINESS decision re:competition . . they want it up and working before they tip off the competition
[16:08] Wizard Gynoid: haha namav
[16:08] Jocelyn Pawpad: THAT is what Mark should have been marketing
[16:08] Whirly Fizzle: lool
[16:08] truthseekrArtist Xevion: lmao
[16:08] Namav Abramovic: i'm serious
[16:08] LOM Runner: truthseeker.. not another Surrogate movie scenario
[16:08] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: comando?
[16:08] Jocelyn Pawpad: heh
[16:08] Namav Abramovic: what is it
[16:08] Scarp Godenot: Secrets are corporate culture. It is hard to break the pattern.....
[16:08] Gwenette Writer: makes pretty easy to build AND you build outside in third party software then import fully made into sl
[16:08] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: ?
[16:08] Gwenette Writer: basically
[16:08] Namav Abramovic: What is Mesh?
[16:09] truthseekrArtist Xevion: [16:08] LOM Runner: truthseeker.. not another Surrogate movie scenario ??
[16:09] truthseekrArtist Xevion: ??
[16:09] Scarp Godenot: Non prim based building, Namav
[16:09] SecondLie Scribe: imagine mesh as a public strandard for sculpties with collision maps
[16:09] Gwenette Writer shouts: mesh means that folsk who are never in here can develop for sl . . interesting cultural change
[16:09] Bacon Hellershanks shouts: Did Michael Linden do an interview in Rolling Stone?
[16:09] Simeon Bookmite: mesh is sculpties on steroids
[16:09] Brookston Holiday: Namav. The ability to import complex shapes into sl built in 3rd party software like max and maya.
[16:09] LOM Runner shouts: www. id="RadESpellError_1446" class="RadEWrongWord">youtube.com/watch?v=Zl_h9RaL0es
[16:09] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: cool
[16:10] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: to mesh
[16:10] Scarp Godenot: First voice
[16:10] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: lmao
[16:10] Whirly Fizzle: ahaha
[16:10] Namav Abramovic: Awesome!!
[16:10] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: but when are they going to bring mesh? we still don't have a data
[16:11] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: date
[16:11] Scarp Godenot: Except builders are conflicted because they have to learn new software..... heh
[16:11] Namav Abramovic shouts: Mesh sounds GAME CHANGING
[16:11] Ataro Asbrink: the future of virtual worlds are open sims and hypergrids, SL included
[16:11] LANCE Rembrandt: LL is not going to tip there hand just yet.... i know cary rozenweig at imvu and every virtual world platform is behind and trying to grow and every virtual world is trying hard to catch up with people demands according to the technology that it was created upon
[16:11] Scarp Godenot: Crap hits it right, there.
[16:12] LOM Runner: very true Secondlie
[16:12] Gwenette Writer shouts: odd the pushed shared media and dumped edu support re: Claudia
[16:12] Kristine Kristan: I have a media webkit error on 2.1...and my media prims dont work. I have found I dont care that much.
[16:12] Gwenette Writer shouts: exactly so edu did NOT like it re:security concerns
[16:12] Stuart Warf: How many people were crying for Flash in SL though?
[16:12] Stuart Warf: before Shared Media
[16:12] Jocelyn Pawpad giggles
[16:12] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: lmao
[16:12] Gwenette Writer shouts: flash with security holes is not worth it
[16:13] Jocelyn Pawpad: can I quote that?
[16:13] Scarp Godenot: Everyone but Apple userws, Sturart.... ha ha
[16:13] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: one who flew over the co co's nest
[16:13] Sophia Yates: yes
[16:13] LOM Runner: html5
[16:13] Jocelyn Pawpad: hehe - ty
[16:13] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: this is freedom exactly
[16:13] Srilania Svoboda shouts: HELL YES SECONDLIFE SCRIBE!
[16:13] Gwenette Writer shouts: yes BEAUTIFUL PLACES
[16:13] Kristine Kristan: squeee
[16:13] Wizard Gynoid: a cave yes
[16:13] Kitsune Lassiter: oh yah
[16:13] Gwenette Writer shouts: and the grey balls are tiresome hahaha
[16:14] LANCE Rembrandt: i would like to pose a question....... how can we as no LL employees make this place a better place with out LL helps?
[16:14] Scarp Godenot: I like that perspective on land, never considered that before.... interesting
[16:14] Brookston Holiday: How worried does the talk about making SL simpler to use, and reinstating the NDA, how worried are you they might shelve MESH for a while?
[16:14] Sophia Yates: eek
[16:15] Srilania Svoboda shouts: Like 2-3 prim furniture, landscapes without spending 80% of your prim allowance on just decoration
[16:15] Ataro Asbrink: in the future i don't want a sl-vatican in san francisco
[16:15] amelie Ragu: lol
[16:15] labella Farella: i say get it out soon for beta
[16:15] labella Farella: we need hope
[16:15] labella Farella: this month
[16:15] Namav Abramovic shouts: I'm gonna go. I loved participating. LOVE YOU GUYS. I'll be back about 6 SLT... anyone can IM me if wanting to discuss the questions I've asked
[16:15] Brookston Holiday: How worried does the talk about making SL simpler to use, and reinstating the NDA, how worried are you they might shelve MESH for a while?
[16:15] Sophia Yates: i hope not
[16:16] Sophia Yates: love shadows
[16:16] Chantal Harvey: haaa shadows
[16:16] Scarp Godenot: Yeah, what happened with that?
[16:16] Namav Abramovic shouts: bye all
[16:16] LOM Runner: YAY! the Shadow Government.
[16:16] labella Farella: Mesh is there they just thought they needed more time
[16:16] Jocelyn Pawpad changes her 1st life profile
[16:16] SecondLie Scribe: landscapers like lilith heart and botanical
[16:16] SecondLie Scribe: adding shadow prims
[16:16] labella Farella: it was last minute pull back when 2.0 realesed
[16:17] Wizard Gynoid: haha jocelyn
[16:17] Srilania Svoboda shouts: JIGGLY BOOBS!
[16:17] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: when will our mouths move?
[16:17] SecondLie Scribe: my mouth is moving now. i just have a bag on my head
[16:17] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: exact;y Phaylen
[16:17] labella Farella: can I just say there was no RC for 2.0
[16:18] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: lmao
[16:18] Whirly Fizzle: Yes, they meet each week with Emerald devs. Theres a LOT of interaction
[16:18] labella Farella: it was
[16:18] Brookston Holiday: God I love her voice.
[16:18] Scarp Godenot: How hard is it to add a windlight one click submenu? This is the problem. They don't give a shit about these major innovations.
[16:18] Wizard Gynoid: they closed my JIRA about 2.0 and said "expected behavior". it was purposely designed that way.
[16:19] Sophia Yates: turned off
[16:19] labella Farella: he said less work
[16:19] SecondLie Scribe: havok 4 was a sidewinder thing. they wiped sidewinder when i was in and .1ed
[16:19] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: What can we as residents to do to ex[idite some of these features?
[16:19] SecondLie Scribe: even though sidewinder is an audio god
[16:20] labella Farella: mesh will be out i think
[16:20] labella Farella: they had a sept date
[16:20] LOM Runner: yep
[16:21] labella Farella: im smart i got off the island
[16:21] Kitsune Lassiter: lol
[16:21] labella Farella: love
[16:21] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: here here!
[16:21] labella Farella: all we need is love
[16:21] Wizard Gynoid: SL is an intelligence test. hehe
[16:21] Chantal Harvey: shadows, and facial animation
[16:21] Brookston Holiday: Group Chat?
[16:21] Simeon Bookmite: grid crossings
[16:21] LOM Runner: a 100th SL monkey
[16:21] Sophia Yates: yes
[16:21] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: yes..get rid of the chat bug
[16:21] LANCE Rembrandt: communication chat, group, IM, voice is top 3
[16:22] Sophia Yates: i would love that to chantal
[16:22] Razzleberry Tunwarm shouts: fix inventory notifications!
[16:22] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: oh yes SecondLie
[16:22] labella Farella: more groups!
[16:22] labella Farella shouts: friend organizations!
[16:22] Stuart Warf: Didn't you say a friendly voice Cra
[16:22] Stuart Warf: p?
[16:22] Razzleberry Tunwarm shouts: No more groups until they fix the chat lag!!
[16:23] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: here here
[16:23] Wizard Gynoid: i'm too busy to date your avatar
[16:23] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: the first mall in usa was in rochester ny
[16:23] Brookston Holiday shouts: Amen SecondLie!
[16:23] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: home of kodak
[16:23] labella Farella: freebie island was the best
[16:23] labella Farella: hell yes
[16:23] amelie Ragu: ^^
[16:24] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: So...what can we as residents do to help expidite some of these changes?
[16:24] labella Farella shouts: nothing but blog!
[16:24] labella Farella shouts: no furums
[16:24] Razzleberry Tunwarm: go on strike?
[16:24] labella Farella: lol
[16:24] Kitsune Lassiter: lol
[16:24] Srilania Svoboda shouts: Chase them around the grid with paddles and floggers, and make them fix things
[16:24] Kitsune Lassiter: ROFLMAO
[16:25] amelie Ragu shouts: all that is around free is a success for the traffic
[16:25] LOM Runner: yeah like avatar island and making fun of noobs falling off the building
[16:25] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: exactly Phalen
[16:25] labella Farella: yes
[16:25] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: it would be great to plug ito our brain and see our dreams in 3-D in SL no?
[16:25] labella Farella shouts: the residents made sl pretty! not LL
[16:25] Gwenette Writer shouts: why have we NEVER had a LL team that STAFFS 24/7 NEW ARRIVALS??
[16:25] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: omg
[16:25] Sophia Yates: no way!
[16:26] Sophia Yates: crap
[16:26] labella Farella: oy
[16:26] Sophia Yates: which ones?
[16:26] Kristine Kristan: wah wah wahhhhh
[16:26] labella Farella: lol
[16:26] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: uh oh! There goes SL!
[16:26] Bixyl Shuftan: ho ho! What a "turkey."
[16:26] Jocelyn Pawpad: heh
[16:26] Gwenette Writer shouts: link pls
[16:26] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: lmao
[16:26] Kristine Kristan: do they take paypal?
[16:26] labella Farella: no more hikes
[16:26] labella Farella: ugh
[16:26] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: we do need to lower prices
[16:26] labella Farella: and lag
[16:26] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: the world economy sucks now
[16:26] Reed Steamroller: even new computers with intel graphics accelerators can't run SL, but that is more of the fault of intel than LL's..... people don't realize that they need game hardware to run SL,. because they don't consider SL a game.
[16:26] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: this world has only global economy now
[16:26] Sophia Yates: yes
[16:26] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: SL
[16:27] Gwenette Writer shouts: www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/24/greece-islands-sale-save-economy
/>[16:27] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: exactly Phaylen
[16:27] labella Farella: pfft
[16:27] labella Farella: hell no
[16:27] amelie Ragu: yes
[16:27] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: it is extremely creative here
[16:27] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: This is a ig problems with my friends are new to SL
[16:27] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: lmao
[16:27] labella Farella: lol
[16:27] Sophia Yates: yup
[16:27] amelie Ragu: hehehe
[16:28] Chantal Harvey runs and hides
[16:28] Sophia Yates: hello
[16:28] labella Farella shouts: friend me!
[16:28] Brookston Holiday: As the economists say, it is more expensive to give away money.
[16:28] Reed Steamroller: new laptops with new intel graphics accelerators are expected to run SL because they figure if it can display HD video, it can do 3d graphics.... this is a VERY bad misconception
[16:28] Wizard Gynoid: yeah i wonder what's happening with that now?
[16:28] LANCE Rembrandt: lol true that Secondlie
[16:28] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: People are mad that LL is giving land discounts to some but not to others
[16:28] Sophia Yates: lol
[16:28] labella Farella: lmao
[16:28] Whirly Fizzle: LMAO
[16:28] Sophia Yates: hehe
[16:28] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: i do my art as a means to balance mentally
[16:28] amelie Ragu: bravo lol
[16:28] Kitsune Lassiter: lol
[16:28] Gwenette Writer: use the Blue Mars structure the sims are NOT persistant the small load /small ava limit personal home sims . . on grid ONLY when owner is online
[16:28] Gwenette Writer shouts: use the Blue Mars structure the sims are NOT persistant the small load /small ava limit personal home sims . . on grid ONLY when owner is online
[16:28] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: no art= insanity here
[16:28] Sophia Yates: lol
[16:28] Gwenette Writer shouts: Chantal we LOVE you
[16:28] amelie Ragu: i cantit doesent want my maclol
[16:29] Bixyl Shuftan: Heh, start a conservative version of Virtually Speaking
[16:29] Sophia Yates: hmmm
[16:29] Sophia Yates: lol
[16:29] Gwenette Writer shouts: Good questions
[16:30] Gwenette Writer shouts: sl IS ART
[16:30] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: art is a 3 letter word
[16:30] labella Farella: some people like erotic art
[16:30] labella Farella: lol
[16:30] Reed Steamroller: erm... i don't think you can create a litmus test or definition for art
[16:30] Sophia Yates: yes
[16:30] Sophia Yates: yes
[16:30] Gwenette Writer shouts: HYPERGRID IT YES YES YES
[16:31] Sophia Yates: yes
[16:31] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: exactly SecondLie...I have 25 sims in OpenSim
[16:31] labella Farella: yes
[16:31] Scarp Godenot: Figuring out how to hook up the information about the art is the problem in the SL art world at the moment.
[16:31] Wizard Gynoid: hypergrid ra ra ra
[16:31] Reed Steamroller: lol
[16:31] Reed Steamroller: socialist
[16:31] Sophia Yates: lol
[16:31] Ataro Asbrink: i want boolean operators in inventory search, because half the time in sl i am searching in my inventory
[16:31] Sophia Yates: hmm lol
[16:31] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: want my resume any one?
[16:31] truthseekrArtist Xevion: heh
[16:31] Wizard Gynoid: get out of the viewer business
[16:32] LANCE Rembrandt: yes i agree Sl is a platform
[16:32] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: yes!
[16:32] labella Farella: laggiest place in sl is linden homes lol
[16:32] Gwenette Writer shouts: it IS a minset that has taken hold:LL as a content providers
[16:32] Wizard Gynoid: yay
[16:32] Scarp Godenot: If you have a hard time competing with library items, you are a loser... ha ha ha
[16:32] Kitsune Lassiter: I can't even build on mu linden home
[16:32] Razzleberry Tunwarm: I don't want a Linden home
[16:33] labella Farella: /
[16:33] Gwenette Writer shouts: redundant
[16:33] amelie Ragu: sure
[16:33] Wizard Gynoid: ah ok. now i understand the group problem
[16:33] Sophia Yates: hmm yes
[16:33] Srilania Svoboda shouts: YES!
[16:33] Kitsune Lassiter: ohh...that would be great!
[16:34] Gwenette Writer shouts: well 20/20 hindsite rememebr the anticipated user base was 10,000 cincurrency . . programmers were NOT seeing what is here today
[16:34] Reed Steamroller: oh come on
[16:34] Reed Steamroller: they had to cut down or the company was going to tank
[16:34] labella Farella: lol
[16:34] amelie Ragu: ^^
[16:34] Scarp Godenot: Doesn't the love machine sub out projects into the general world? That would work to fix a lot of these small problems.....
[16:35] Srilania Svoboda shouts: Scribe, You should really watch that Olestra in diet chips and ice cream. It can cause anal leakage while talking out of your ass
[16:35] SecondLie Scribe: you've aged like a fine wine. i've just whined.
[16:35] Gwenette Writer shouts: would be a quality/security control nightmare re:complexitty
[16:35] Srilania Svoboda shouts: lol
[16:35] SecondLie Scribe: hahahahahahahaha
[16:36] Reed Steamroller: w/ html5 and webgl framework comes ingtegrated 3d content possibilites on the WWW
[16:36] labella Farella: lol
[16:36] Kitsune Lassiter: lol
[16:36] Whirly Fizzle: lool
[16:36] Gwenette Writer shouts: certainly not user cretaor world more like Ticky Tacky boxes on the hillside
[16:36] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: exactly
[16:37] Jocelyn Pawpad: pretty much
[16:37] Scarp Godenot: Gotta Run folks! Thanks for all the food for thought! I learned a lot today. Thanks and seeyou all later......
[16:37] Wizard Gynoid: ciao scarp
[16:37] Scarp Godenot: byee
[16:38] Reed Steamroller: they are working on lowering tier costs, joe mentioned himself moving the grid to a cloud type architechture... that would present possibilities of both cheaper and better performing SIM's
[16:38] Srilania Svoboda shouts: It's rampant in the Brazilian sector.
[16:38] Gwenette Writer shouts: solution may be a third party service that you CAN buy as creator if you want . . assuming LL can handle i think is not going to happen
[16:38] SecondLie Scribe: reed - yes
[16:38] SecondLie Scribe: reed - joe is the future of the company and platform. watch him
[16:38] Reed Steamroller: well... he's not the ONLY linden working on that i'm sure
[16:38] Whirly Fizzle: People can steal using the regular viewer also unfortunately , GL intercept.
[16:38] Reed Steamroller: but yeah
[16:38] Gwenette Writer shouts: vemdors in SL or open sim??
[16:38] Reed Steamroller: he's awesome
[16:39] Jocelyn Pawpad: and that bites heaps - but you know, MUCH of this content threft could be stomped out of existance by simple dent of community attitudes
[16:39] Reed Steamroller: Saffia, how would you recommend the lab deal with that sort of problem?
[16:39] Kitsune Lassiter: I agree
[16:39] Reed Steamroller: I know I hear people constantly complain about content theft... but what would be the solution?
[16:39] labella Farella: they have put something up
[16:40] Gwenette Writer shouts: ummm well maybe LL solution was to blow off issue and make their own content to replace the creator brain drain??
[16:40] labella Farella: no?
[16:40] SecondLie Scribe: mesh may be part of the solution with licensing and identification and hidden layers
[16:40] Reed Steamroller: yep
[16:40] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: you need to hier more peeps
[16:40] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: hire
[16:40] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: they can hire me!
[16:40] Kitsune Lassiter: lol
[16:40] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: me tooo
[16:40] truthseekrArtist Xevion shouts: hint hint
[16:40] labella Farella: always!
[16:41] Whirly Fizzle: Texture rips can never ever be stopped. If your computer "sees" it, it can be grabbed :o(
[16:41] Kitsune Lassiter: trye Whirly
[16:41] Stuart Warf: (audio of the podcast portion of this discussion being rendered now ready for release)
[16:41] Reed Steamroller: if there was a way to stop this sort of behavior with any sort of efficacy, the RIAA and the MPAA wouldn't exist.
[16:41] Reed Steamroller: all you can do is piss in the wind.
[16:41] labella Farella: cause its money to sue
[16:42] Whirly Fizzle: LL should ban copybotters more swiftly. They just dont!
[16:42] Reed Steamroller: period. end of storey.
[16:42] Reed Steamroller: whirly, and then they just get new accounts and come back
[16:42] Gwenette Writer: hahhahhaahhaa
[16:42] Wizard Gynoid: the FBI has absolutely NO STAFF dedicated to policing the illegal copies of movies.
[16:42] Kitsune Lassiter: exactly
[16:42] Reed Steamroller: what CAN they do?
[16:42] Whirly Fizzle: True Reed but it makes it a bit harder. If they are MAC banned all the time.
[16:43] Jocelyn Pawpad: Well, LL isnt coming to the party on this obviously - why are we not able to work with the framework and educate residents against using copybotted stuff for anything more than say, advertisments for creators products?
[16:43] Gwenette Writer shouts: well they tried the blocking of the viewers themself
[16:43] Reed Steamroller: whirly.... and then you can just spoof your mac address
[16:43] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: I agree
[16:43] Reed Steamroller: it becomes an arms race
[16:43] Reed Steamroller: with their residents
[16:43] Whirly Fizzle: It already is an arms race
[16:44] Reed Steamroller: so then.... whats the point?
[16:44] labella Farella: still?
[16:44] Gwenette Writer shouts: we need a THIRD PARTY SERVICE tnhat allows creators to somehow stop the export
[16:44] Whirly Fizzle: I would say it has improved slightly recently
[16:44] Kitsune Lassiter: this is whyI hesitate to create my stuff
[16:44] Srilania Svoboda shouts: Ban the brazillians. a LOT of the content theft is coming from there
[16:44] labella Farella: its improved from last year
[16:44] Whirly Fizzle: Yes
[16:45] Wizard Gynoid: ina centaur had all of her freebie star wars avatars removed, but there are tons of star wars avatars still on xstreet. the enforcement is ridiculous.
[16:45] labella Farella: really
[16:45] labella Farella: one sec
[16:45] Reed Steamroller: then the creators should find another way to monetize on their content OTHER THAN SELLING IT DIRECTLY
[16:45] Matthew Anthony: and then LL doesn't respond to the DMCAs 75% of the time (from my experience)
[16:45] Gwenette Writer shouts: remmeber hat originally there was NO currency in sl. the economy was developed at the demands of the residents. WE created the economy WE have to be responsible for policing all aspects of it im ho
[16:45] Jocelyn Pawpad: can DMCA notices be filed by representatives of the content creators, anyone?
[16:45] Whirly Fizzle: I think we have to be thankfull that the large majority of residents are honest...theres just a few bad apples
[16:46] Reed Steamroller: nothing is going to stop people stealing content. have you heard of thepiratebay.com
[16:46] Reed Steamroller: ?
[16:46] Kghia Gherardi: and each item stolen is addressed individually, isn't it?
[16:46] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: but how do creators know when they have been stolen from?
[16:46] Reed Steamroller: kitsune, when they're lucky enough to come across it in world.
[16:46] Srilania Svoboda shouts: Emerald is working on that, with Onyx
[16:46] Sophia Yates: lol
[16:46] Kitsune Lassiter: crap
[16:46] Whirly Fizzle: Usually, its customers that let you know. They spot it
[16:47] Gwenette Writer shouts: you do N OT know unless you SEE it elsewhere
[16:47] Reed Steamroller: hence the stroker suit...
[16:48] Whirly Fizzle: ..and the speed rezzer one...
[16:48] Reed Steamroller: stroker is an ass
[16:48] Jocelyn Pawpad: can DMCA notices be filed by representatives of the content creators, anyone? because if so, we might see an entrepreneurial spirit setting up a IP prosecution unit to enforce IP rights (kind of like an X-Street which ultimately LL would have to buy out)?
[16:49] Reed Steamroller: lol
[16:49] Kitsune Lassiter: lol
[16:49] Saffia Widdershins: No, Jocelyn
[16:49] Saffia Widdershins: It has to be the creator
[16:49] Gwenette Writer shouts: I think that is not reasonable . . . we need to be proactive and as a group of creators contract a software developer to make a sw tool that interfaces with viewer/grid and then offer it to LL to install . . . perhaps we expect too much in too many areas from LL??
[16:50] Gwenette Writer shouts: exactly!! and hardly anyone does that. . .
[16:50] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: But it is copyright the second you make it
[16:50] Jocelyn Pawpad: copyright exists at the point of creation
[16:51] Gwenette Writer: KIT not the same as actual filing re: credibility
[16:51] LOM Runner: but should it be like creative commons?
[16:51] Kitsune Lassiter: exactly Joycelyn
[16:51] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: it is
[16:51] Jocelyn Pawpad: errrr, they have creation dates
[16:51] Wizard Gynoid: common law copyright --> Copyright (c) 2010 Wizard Gynoid
[16:51] labella Farella: mail it to yourseelf
[16:51] Kghia Gherardi nods in agreement with Saffia
[16:51] labella Farella: yes
[16:51] Jocelyn Pawpad: they HAVE creation dates
[16:51] Gwenette Writer shouts: the PROOF taht you created it FIRST is a papaerwork trail
[16:51] amelie Ragu: yes
[16:51] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: you can spoof dates
[16:52] Reed Steamroller: i take it as a compliment
[16:52] Reed Steamroller: when that happens
[16:52] Simeon Bookmite: agrees with Gwenette
[16:52] Reed Steamroller: yeah
[16:52] Reed Steamroller: and they hit those guys with a hammer
[16:52] Reed Steamroller: kaboom
[16:52] Reed Steamroller: half hour
[16:52] amelie Ragu: in france you hace (INPI for mark and SACEM for music)
[16:52] Srilania Svoboda shouts: Burn it on a DVD, mail the DVD to yourself, and leave it sealed. that usually will cover you
[16:52] Gwenette Writer shouts: I do not mean dates inworld I mean in papers filed with feds copyright office
[16:53] amelie Ragu: have*
[16:53] Brookston Holiday: I think that has more to do with you being Gianna Borgnine, not your paperwork.
[16:53] Reed Steamroller: we're FIC
[16:53] Reed Steamroller:
[16:53] Whirly Fizzle: Ive seen avis banned within an hour just on an AR on a copybotter
[16:53] Gwenette Writer shouts: umm feted inner circle at work hahaha
[16:53] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: really Whirly?
[16:53] Matthew Anthony: Gianna: I filed a DMCA in October that has never been responded to. Same with others that have been filed months ago
[16:53] Brookston Holiday: me 2
[16:53] Reed Steamroller: they know better than to let us sit and wait
[16:53] Reed Steamroller: i'm j/k btw
[16:53] Whirly Fizzle: Not always Kitsune, but Ive personally seen it twice.
[16:54] Wizard Gynoid: june doesn't bother anymore. she just talks to them.
[16:54] Kitsune Lassiter: wow
[16:54] amelie Ragu: great
[16:54] Gwenette Writer shouts: u act professional THEY act professional FILE FILE FILE
[16:54] LOM Runner: but with the quickly evolving 3D, should copyright be like dog years?
[16:55] Kghia Gherardi: that doesn't help the content creator recover from the impact of having others steal and sell their work
[16:55] labella Farella: I'm trying to find the realse they did it had something about IP theft
[16:55] LOM Runner: I mean, using builds from 2003 would look cheesy
[16:55] labella Farella: was a while back
[16:55] Kghia Gherardi: they have still lost money and time
[16:55] Whirly Fizzle: The beta program?
[16:55] Gwenette Writer shouts: mommy daddy take care of me hahaah
[16:55] labella Farella: they put in some type of policy in
[16:55] Reed Steamroller: welcome to the internet, there are no take backs.
[16:55] Reed Steamroller: even here in SL.
[16:55] Whirly Fizzle: Yes..Ill find it. I think I know what you mean
[16:56] Stuart Warf: (If i poof, SL logged me out while uploading the panel discussion cos of insufficient bandwidth)
[16:56] Jocelyn Pawpad: and Phaylen... if I may.... ANYONE who finds themselves in the posession of copied content and they like the items enough to use them... FIND the original genuine creators and BUY the genuine article.
[16:56] Kghia Gherardi: and this is why some of the most creative people in SL will not stay.
[16:56] Whirly Fizzle: New pilot program id="RadESpellError_2179" class="RadEWrongWord">wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Frequently_Asked_Questions_on_the_IP_Complaint_Process
RETURNED FROM CRASH
[17:08] Stuart Warf: I'm ok with that too...
[17:08] Connecting to in-world Voice Chat...
[17:08] Connected
[17:08] labella Farella: that site is what I wanted to ask about develop. id="RadESpellError_2184" class="RadEWrongWord">secondlife.com/
[17:09] Kitsune Lassiter: that is not good
[17:09] Whirly Fizzle: Thats right
[17:09] Whirly Fizzle: Yes
[17:09] Reed Steamroller: yeah
[17:10] Kitsune Lassiter: I could see that would be bad....very bad
[17:10] amelie Ragu: may b for protect all creations slx do do something?
[17:10] Brookston Holiday: Pixeleen Mistral?
[17:10] Reed Steamroller: whats the point of propigating an arms race?
[17:10] Reed Steamroller: that was my question
[17:10] Reed Steamroller: that is a steep price for education
[17:11] Jocelyn Pawpad: that was me
[17:11] Brookston Holiday: Brilliant idea Saffia. I like that a lot.
[17:11] Reed Steamroller: that makes sense... change the business model.... like valve's steam
[17:11] Reed Steamroller: platform
[17:12] labella Farella: yup
[17:12] Jocelyn Pawpad: What i decided after bing given the grave skin was to go and buy a similar Redgrave and use that
[17:12] Brookston Holiday: Because it's hard
[17:12] Kitsune Lassiter: no mor fees
[17:12] labella Farella: this charging crap
[17:12] labella Farella: wth
[17:12] Whirly Fizzle: lol..Mesh import will bering so much more content theft. People will be importing in 3D models from Daz, turbosquid etc & reselling without the license to do so
[17:12] Whirly Fizzle: *bring
[17:12] labella Farella: mesh is more theft
[17:12] labella Farella: kinda
[17:13] Kitsune Lassiter: I agree Whirly
[17:13] labella Farella: from people who are not in sl
[17:13] Reed Steamroller: mesh isn't going to bring more content theft.
[17:13] Whirly Fizzle: Oh sure
[17:13] Brookston Holiday: Gabillion?
[17:13] Reed Steamroller: lol assuming
[17:13] labella Farella: lol
[17:13] Whirly Fizzle: It happens now tho. You can chop up obj models & import & remake. Ive seen a lot in sl already
[17:13] Reed Steamroller: ALLEGEDLY
[17:13] labella Farella: i like my alias =/
[17:14] Jocelyn Pawpad: you NEED to create an environment where that kind of outcome is more comon - it will neuter content theft as a concern because it turns the copybotted content into an advertisment for the genuine content if people are inclined to use it to determine what they would buy
[17:14] labella Farella: it ryhmes
[17:14] Brookston Holiday: ME TOO
[17:14] Reed Steamroller: it will be.
[17:14] labella Farella: Labella Farella
[17:14] Reed Steamroller: whats a mesh?
[17:14] labella Farella: sculpt
[17:14] Whirly Fizzle: looool
[17:14] Kitsune Lassiter: lol
[17:14] Brookston Holiday: WHOA
[17:14] Kitsune Lassiter: I AM NOT going there!
[17:14] labella Farella: haha
[17:14] labella Farella: love phaylen <3
[17:14] Brookston Holiday: Let the women folk talk he says....
[17:14] Whirly Fizzle: Any word on the size of meshes that will be allowed to be imported? How many polys?
[17:15] Reed Steamroller: i've actually brought that up w/ the dev team.... about how there will be a mesh penis and it will be their fault
[17:15] Kitsune Lassiter: jiggly bits!
[17:15] labella Farella: she crash?
[17:15] amelie Ragu: when you can copy a texture with emerald....
[17:15] Reed Steamroller: it will decrease lag if the content creator knows what they're doing
[17:15] Chantal Harvey: hey crap
[17:15] Kitsune Lassiter: uh oh
[17:15] Kitsune Lassiter: lol
[17:15] Reed Steamroller: if you make a 60k poly hat... it will lag everybody out
[17:15] Stuart Warf: id="RadESpellError_2281" class="RadEWrongWord">rezzed.tv/2010/06/metanews-update-panel-discussion-on-philip-returning-as-interim-ceo/
[17:15] Keeme Brown: /Crap LIVES
[17:16] Bixyl Shuftan: getting a call, see you soon
[17:16] labella Farella: me too
[17:16] Reed Steamroller: Nika!
[17:16] Keeme Brown: PHAYLEN MARRY ME!
[17:16] Whirly Fizzle: Yes, thanks to the panel. Very informative
[17:16] labella Farella: no marry me
[17:16] Nika Dreamscape: issues
[17:16] Chantal Harvey: hehehe keeme - i will film that
[17:16] Kitsune Lassiter: lol
[17:16] Keeme Brown:
[17:17] Wizard Gynoid: what is URL where this will be posted?
[17:17] labella Farella: lol
[17:17] Whirly Fizzle: lol
[17:17] Chantal Harvey: id="RadESpellError_2310" class="RadEWrongWord">rezzed.tv/2010/06/metanews-update-panel-discussion-on-philip-returning-as-interim-ceo/
[17:17] Wizard Gynoid: thankies
[17:17] Kitsune Lassiter: lol
[17:17] Sophia Yates: lol
[17:17] Kitsune Lassiter: piccys!...lol
[17:17] Sophia Yates: yes
[17:17] Wizard Gynoid: thanks much. very informative.
[17:17] Sophia Yates: aview tv
[17:18] Kitsune Lassiter: rofl
[17:18] Sophia Yates: hmm
[17:18] Reed Steamroller: Reed Linden... Linden of sculpty pants.
[17:18] Sophia Yates: lol
[17:18] labella Farella: lol
[17:18] Sophia Yates: cute
[17:18] Whirly Fizzle: Whirly Linden...Shopping expert
[17:18] Sophia Yates: haha
[17:18] Kitsune Lassiter: lol
[17:18] labella Farella: thats opposite me
[17:18] labella Farella: lol
[17:18] Kitsune Lassiter: rofl...Whirly
[17:18] Sophia Yates: good house keeping
[17:18] Keeme Brown: Lag Linden
[17:18] Kitsune Lassiter: do you have a link?
[17:19] Keeme Brown: I control the bandwidth
[17:19] Whirly Fizzle: lol thats fun
[17:19] Kitsune Lassiter: uh oh! lol
[17:19] Reed Steamroller: that linden already exists stuart, his name is falcon
[17:19] Whirly Fizzle: Your world...your imagination...your FIRED!
[17:19] Srilania Svoboda: jpmenu
[17:19] Kitsune Lassiter: rofl whirl
[17:19] Wizard Gynoid: wizzy linden. beancounter extraordinaire. i would kick ass.
[17:19] Srilania Svoboda: jpmenu
[17:19] Sophia Yates: im going to blogcast thsi
[17:19] Sophia Yates: this
[17:19] labella Farella: pfft i would be a celebrity
[17:20] labella Farella: be on every mag cover
[17:20] Sophia Yates: people who care
[17:20] labella Farella: blog
[17:20] Keeme Brown: I would be Neo Linden and I would be in charge of saying "Woah"
[17:20] LOM Runner: I would be NoHomo Linden
[17:20] Kitsune Lassiter: lol
[17:20] Jocelyn Pawpad: Fuzen Linden - professonal monkeywrencher
[17:20] labella Farella: linden power!
[17:20] Sophia Yates: lol
[17:20] Whirly Fizzle: I would take all the other Lindens shopping cos most of em look like noobs!
[17:20] Reed Steamroller: with our powers combined...
[17:20] Chantal Harvey: lol
[17:20] labella Farella: moneybanks linden
[17:20] Sophia Yates shouts: the Feel good linden
[17:20] Saffia Widdershins shouts: id="RadESpellError_2425" class="RadEWrongWord">primperfectblog.wordpress.com/
[17:20] labella Farella: richest linden eva
[17:20] Sophia Yates: hehe
[17:21] Sophia Yates: who is that under that bag
[17:21] Keeme Brown: Mr. Howel Linden and I would decide between maryann and ginger!
[17:21] Srilania Svoboda: Kinky Linden, in charge of Adult services
[17:21] Kitsune Lassiter: bye Phaylen
[17:21] Chantal Harvey: me too, i have a panel to go to
[17:21] Sophia Yates: thank you for all that information
[17:21] Chantal Harvey: lol
[17:21] Sophia Yates: im typing blind
[17:21] Kitsune Lassiter: lol
[17:21] Srilania Svoboda shouts: Kinky Linden, in charge of Adult services
[17:21] labella Farella: you got to go to kareoke
[17:21] labella Farella: at sl5b
[17:21] Jocelyn Pawpad: and if Ansche or Prok was there
[17:22] labella Farella: sl7b
[17:22] labella Farella: lol
[17:22] Reed Steamroller: yeah
[17:22] Reed Steamroller: you should have gotten prok here
[17:22] Sophia Yates: thank you so much
[17:22] Chantal Harvey: whó is this prok?
[17:22] Jocelyn Pawpad: jprelease
[17:22] Reed Steamroller: lol
[17:22] Reed Steamroller: prokofy
[17:22] Reed Steamroller: prokofy neva
[17:22] Jocelyn Pawpad: jpunkneel
[17:22] Chantal Harvey: lets match prok and safeme oh, in heaven
[17:22] labella Farella: lol
[17:23] labella Farella: haha'
[17:23] Brookston Holiday: whoo hoo
[17:23] LOM Runner: * ? * LoOoL * ? *
[17:23] LOM Runner: * ? * LoOoL * ? *
[17:23] Brookston Holiday shouts: It's a swimsuit, i got out of the pool for this!
[17:23] labella Farella: lol
[17:23] LOM Runner: Where's me booty
[17:23] Crap Mariner: get out of here, secondlie!
[17:24] labella Farella: Saffia
[17:24] Keeme Brown: Naked enough for ya
[17:24] labella Farella: lol
[17:24] Brookston Holiday: SL won't let me tp out of here
[17:24] labella Farella: aww
[17:24] Gianna Borgnine: BYE EVERYONE.... THANK YOU!
[17:24] labella Farella: river dance
[17:24] Kitsune Lassiter shouts: Thanks so much you guys!
[17:24] labella Farella: lol
[17:24] Sophia Yates: bye bye
[17:24] LOM Runner: ***BYE***
[17:24] LOM Runner: Bye
[17:24] LOM Runner: ? See Ya ?
[17:25] labella Farella: whats that?
[17:25] labella Farella: lol
[17:25] labella Farella: yes!
[17:25] Keeme Brown: WB
[17:25] labella Farella: tps might be down
[17:25] Keeme Brown: WB
[17:25] labella Farella: tps might be down
[17:27] Chantal Harvey: www. id="RadESpellError_2542" class="RadEWrongWord">youtube.com/watch?v=pMR7DXo22AM
[17:27] Sophia Yates: lol
[17:28] amelie Ragu shouts: thx very much for this meeting
[17:28] Teleport completed from id="RadESpellError_2550" class="RadEWrongWord">slurl.com/secondlife/Rezzed%20TV%20Island/21/201/22
[17:28] Connecting to in-world Voice Chat...
[17:28] Connected
[17:28] face animation: If you want to quit and remove the menu, press "Ignore" button.
~smirks~ AND SAYS TO ONESELF "WELL WASN'T THAT EDUCATIONAL!"
These notes are incomplete since I arrived around 30 minutes late but I think what the transcripts and the audio reveals is enough for everyone to get what's on peoples minds and what others know and what others do not know. It's a dirty sandbox and it needs cleaning. More like a litter box I guess you could say.
I wish I had more time to spend on all this but summer is here I have real life to tend to and well today just gave me better reason to take time off. I'm finishing up a few films and will post them as soon as I'm done but to complete them means SL has to behave. i can't stay logged in long enough to see the wonderful sites of the SL7B so I spent my time doing this and now I'm off to enjoy the day.
If anyone missed the discussion well i did my best to get you what you missed.
National Space Society “NSS in Second Life” Machinima Contest Winner Announced
The National Space Society announced Rocksea Renegade was the winner of their Machinima contest. The film “Dreamer’s Journey” Film Location Credit: National Space Society & Music Credit: Craig Lyons.
Dreamer%sq243%s Journey [NSSinSL Machinima Entry]
Machinima has been a great vehicle for telling stories and is becoming an even more prominant medium used by the creative people of Second life. Below is a list of the runner up videos. The machinima videos for this contest had a prerequisite which was 50% of the film had to be filmed on the National Space Society Second Life sim. Musician Craig Lyons also permitted his music to be used in the videos.
The videos where shown at the University of Western Australias new Quad sim Virtual Theater in Second Life and the winner was announced followed by a after dance party held at the Virtual National Space Society.
Video Links to other Entries
In Thrust We Trust (NSSinSL Machinima Entry) HD
Explorers (NSS in SL Machinima Entry) version A
Explorers (NSS in SL Machinima Entry) versionB
NSSinSL Machinima Entry - "From the surface of the Earth" by Earth Primbee
Sign Out OFF LIFT - by ciskovan - NSSinSL Machinima Entry
A Reflection (NSSinSL Machinima Entry)
Craig Lyons - far away (NSSinSL Machinima Entry)
Craig Lyons - spinning slowly - (NSSinSL Machinima Entry)
The Trip [NSSinSL Machinima Entry]
Flurry Fargis- Blow into -(NSSinSL Machinima Entry)
Dreamer%sq243%s Journey [NSSinSL Machinima Entry]
Machinima has been a great vehicle for telling stories and is becoming an even more prominant medium used by the creative people of Second life. Below is a list of the runner up videos. The machinima videos for this contest had a prerequisite which was 50% of the film had to be filmed on the National Space Society Second Life sim. Musician Craig Lyons also permitted his music to be used in the videos.
The videos where shown at the University of Western Australias new Quad sim Virtual Theater in Second Life and the winner was announced followed by a after dance party held at the Virtual National Space Society.
Video Links to other Entries
In Thrust We Trust (NSSinSL Machinima Entry) HD
Explorers (NSS in SL Machinima Entry) version A
Explorers (NSS in SL Machinima Entry) versionB
NSSinSL Machinima Entry - "From the surface of the Earth" by Earth Primbee
Sign Out OFF LIFT - by ciskovan - NSSinSL Machinima Entry
A Reflection (NSSinSL Machinima Entry)
Craig Lyons - far away (NSSinSL Machinima Entry)
Craig Lyons - spinning slowly - (NSSinSL Machinima Entry)
The Trip [NSSinSL Machinima Entry]
Flurry Fargis- Blow into -(NSSinSL Machinima Entry)
Sonicity Fitzroy Book Launch Celebration "Second Life, Media, and the Other Society"
Sonicity Fitzroy Book Launch Celebration "Second Life, Media, and the Other Society"
Written by SL Sonicity Fitzroy
Hosted by Persia Bravin & Lowe Runo
Guest Speaker
CEO of BOSL - Frolic Mills
Written by SL Sonicity Fitzroy
Hosted by Persia Bravin & Lowe Runo
Guest Speaker
CEO of BOSL - Frolic Mills
It was a fun packed Sunday afternoon June 6th 2010 for another Second Lifer who followed her dream. Sonicity Fitzroy has published a book on the Virtual Cultural Society of Second Life.
It was a three year work in progress and will be released June 7th 2010 and will be available on Amazon .
As you can see many came to listen to Sonicity in her own words how this all developed over time for her and that she had the best job in the world, or was that both worlds? I'm always pleased to hear someone has taken this out the door or brought in their own talents and applied them to something useful in Second life that others can take away and learn from.
She really has shown us that it has opened her eyes to not only a whole new world on both sides of the screen but that it had given her a great added education to her already impressive accomplishments. I can't wait to pick up the book. Thank You Sonicity for telling your story and the story of all those you had the pleasure of meeting on your virtual journey and beyond.
Isn't it funny to look below at the faces of these avatars and say I know them just by their avatar alone. We have indeed a new signature in life another identity which reveals our most inner souls at times. We are very fortunate to have all those that have participated in this adventure and told of their experiences along the way. This will definitely be one of the most documented interactive game in history. But is it a game? No not really.
Please listen to Frolic Mills explain his views on the virtual challenge of making it in Second life's Virtual World of Business and Sonicity explain how this all evolved for her.
It was a three year work in progress and will be released June 7th 2010 and will be available on Amazon .
As you can see many came to listen to Sonicity in her own words how this all developed over time for her and that she had the best job in the world, or was that both worlds? I'm always pleased to hear someone has taken this out the door or brought in their own talents and applied them to something useful in Second life that others can take away and learn from.
She really has shown us that it has opened her eyes to not only a whole new world on both sides of the screen but that it had given her a great added education to her already impressive accomplishments. I can't wait to pick up the book. Thank You Sonicity for telling your story and the story of all those you had the pleasure of meeting on your virtual journey and beyond.
Isn't it funny to look below at the faces of these avatars and say I know them just by their avatar alone. We have indeed a new signature in life another identity which reveals our most inner souls at times. We are very fortunate to have all those that have participated in this adventure and told of their experiences along the way. This will definitely be one of the most documented interactive game in history. But is it a game? No not really.
Please listen to Frolic Mills explain his views on the virtual challenge of making it in Second life's Virtual World of Business and Sonicity explain how this all evolved for her.
moolto.ning.com/profile/SonicityFitzroy
karasecondlife.blogspot.com/
moolto.ning.com/profiles/blogs/second-life-media-and-the
Dr. Sonicity Fitzroy - Second Life and the Other Society
Frolic Mills & Sonicity Fitzroy
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